Repubs slowly and carefully begin to speak out about trump's racist Tweets.....

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  1. FreshAir

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    well it's a fact you stated it, but it was a racist tweet just the same
     
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    Lincoln is known as whirling Abe because his party has deserted him, What a great party the grand old party used to be. Perhaps the better angels of its nature can still rise up to reclaim some semblance of its past and this travesty of a leader who stood in front of Lincoln as though he thought he belonged there and spoke language not even remotely worthy of the great emancipator can yet come to be known as the bigot that he is and rejected by the grand old party.
     
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    Hahaha! I have to agree with part of your post. The establishment reps are definitely shivering in the corner as always. Meanwhile Trump is large and in charge!
     
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    No it was not a racist tweet what soever.

    A racist statement has to make some reference in some fashion and he made none

    That is fact it was not racist and you cannot make any intelligent argument otherwise.

    Your feelings do not make it racist
     
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    Keep deflecting.
     
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    I'm on the right? Good to know.


    Why is it that you "need" dodge the question by labeling me? As for "harm", they're just words. "The Squad" can decide whether or not they want words to hurt them. They can also decide to call out Trump on his buffoonish comments and Trump can decide whether or not he wants to give a ****.

    It's a pretty good system, I'd say.

    Nationality and race are two different things, as you probably know. The why isn't relevant; their nationality is the subject matter of the commits. Asking, "what else could the reason be" doesn't answer the question as to, "why is it racist to talk about where someone is from?"

    I don't think it's racist; there is nothing to justify. You think that it is; you are entitled to your opinion. I'm just asking, "how is it racist," you still haven't answered.
     
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    You know that something is racist but you can't tell someone why?

    How would anyone else know not to do it?
     
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    How is it about their ethnicity when ethnicity wasn't mentioned anywhere in the comments.

    Unless you're suggesting ethnicity and nationality are the same thing.
     
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    He did comment on their specific attitudes towards the USA, he said that they have no right to express any opinions about the USA unless they “go back and fix the countries they left” first. Obviously lots of American citizens criticise current US politics, including many who will have family backgrounds from other countries and yet Trump only used the “go back” rhetoric against these non-white women. There is also the aspect in that he either presumed (or wanted to present this false impression that) they were immigrants themselves and therefore somehow have no right to be involved in political debate, again something I don’t think he would do had they been white.

    I don’t think he is consciously racist himself or subconsciously any more racist that we all are, the problem is that he should be aware of how his public messages come across and temper them for clarity and fairness. Either he is entirely ignorant of the impact of his words or he is being deliberately controversial for effect. Neither of those possibilities strike me as worthy of “The Leader of the Free World” and it seems that lots of Americans, including many Republicans, feel the same way.
     
  10. truth and justice

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    Trump can make a comment about the attitudes of a woman towards the US. It becomes racist when the context of her skin color is added to the comment

    MAWA!
     
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    You’re not seeing things clearly.
     
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    Absolutely country of origin defines race for racists. This is why they make the distinction between "sh!thole countries" and others.

    There is no way you can defend this creep. His racism is way too obvious.
     
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    No. They can't decide that. Each and everyone of them represents all minorities in this country. And, BTW, "The Squad" is no more and no less offended by these comments than Chuck Schumer is, or Nancy Pelosi or any of the Republicans who voted to condemn Trump's remarks, ... or that I am... and you should be too, And I am shocked that you're not.

    You talk about them as if they were the next door neighbors. You are talking about the people who govern us. Your next door neighbors can "give a s**t" The people who govern us cannot! They pledged an oath. They damn well better abide by it! Period!

    Yes. Because nationality exists, and "race" does not.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ts-but-there-is-no-such-thing-as-race.558857/

    Here you go

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...racists-because-they-do-racist-things.558813/
     
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    Like not voting for Obama racist? Or some other form of random liberal defined racism? The race card was overplayed, it has no power now...
     
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    it accuses them incorrectly of being from another country by there looks, then tells them to go back to their country, sounds pretty racist to most people
     
  16. FreshAir

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    keep trying to defend is tweet, most see it for what it was
     
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    no one says that, saying racists did not vote for Obama is a true statement, that does not mean all that did not vote for Obama are racist
     
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    No it does not define race for racists and never has

    Physical attrbutes such as eye shape and skin color defines it

    The reason they distinguish between **** hole countries and others is because other countries are shitholes and that has nothing to do with race.

    No you are corrected again so make another lame attempt to prove the tweet was racist

    You have been consistently proven wrong so far
     
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    People were called racists just because they didn't vote for Obama, or agree with his awful policy decisions. The race card is useless now, get used to it. The only people who are taking this nonsense seriously are the same ones that would have been whining if Trump said the sky was blue...
     
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    I never defended it I stayed fact

    It was not racist

    All educated people know this only liars deny it
     
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    it was racist though, your defending Trump by saying it's not when it obviously was
     
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    yes and some of Trump supporters were racist, so what? that doesn't mean all Trump supporters are racist

    it's like the right calling the left socialist, Communists, ect... sure some over use the terms
     
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    Wow, this isn't treading on new ground. The difference here is that 'racist' means nothing now, Democrats made sure of it.

    On the other hand, when we called you socialists back in the Obama era almost every Democrat denied it. Then Bernie jumped out of the commie closet and millions of socialists just appeared. Turns out we were right about that score. Calling you folks commies this time around is only a logical progression. Let us hope we do not see such predictable results in the future...
     
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    fake news
     
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    It was not racist .
    That is proven fact

    I am not defending trump but correcting the lies of other people who call it racist

    It is an absolute lie to call it racist which is what I oppose
     

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