We need a states rights party.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sackeshi, Jul 14, 2019.

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Would you vote for this party?

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  2. No

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    I'm not a democrat. If you people did anything but shoot from the hip with crackpot arguments, you would realize that most of what you believe is total nonsense; starting with, I'm not a liberal. I'm an Independent and was a Republican before that. That alone shows how you leap to crap conclusions while having no information

    That's why trump is dangerous: People like you are gullible enough to believe a two-bit con man and thug.
     
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  2. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Don't drive on roads, don't call 911 don't send your children to school, do go to the park, don't drink water not from a well. Then we have a deal.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    So put your vote where your mouth is and give Blue States the right to secede. Then you can be rid of those evil Blue States. That is what you want, right? So put up or shut up.
     
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    With the exception of schooling - which is debatable - all of those things are legitimate functions of government.

    Interestingly, your list, with the exception of roads - which can be justified on the constitutional inclusion of post roads - are unconstitutional on the federal level.

    Federalism allows for leftist nuts to engage in most any governmental foolishness you want to - on the state level.

    Where you get into trouble is when you try to misuse the FedGov to force your leftist nonsense on everybody.
     
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    I'm a libertarian and did not vote for Trump.

    If you're not a Democrat - you're worse then. Which is hard to imagine.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I'm not.
     
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    wist43 Banned

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    So you're "worse" than a Dem??

    Lol... Dems are a pretty sick and despicable lot ;)
     
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    LOL. There it is once again. If you aren't RW faux tv, one is a communist. No one can ever be taken seriously when they think communist is the agenda. That talk is so 1950s
    Why not debate the topics? Why refer to anyone who doesn't think like you as communist?
     
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    Never the topic. Always the poster.
     
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    What does being a D or L or R or any other, have to do with the topic?
     
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    I addressed the topic and gave you some specifics regarding the "New Green Deal", i.e. it is a nonstarter economically.

    Discussed the open borders policies of the left, stated that many things the FedGov does are unconstitutional, etc...

    From which you stated that you were a leftist and have ever since tried to avoid discussing ideas, and launched into accusations of "RW faux" nonsense.

    As for the New Green Deal - as I said, if you don't understand that there would be a severely negative economic impact associated with such a hairbrained endeavor, then you are incapable of understanding the subject matter.

    Congratulations, you're in the majority ;)
     
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    What about fed aid to the states with military bases and defense contractors, should the military be split equally to all states and defense contractors must equally represent all states?
     
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    Yes the military should be split into state militias and require there state executive to approve any mission.
     
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    Red states and blue states keep flip flopping on their positions with the exception of the two obvious states. Everyone wants freedom from the union until they want federal help which is why secession will never happen.
     
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    Are you going to support the right of secession or make excuses?

    The West Coast doesn't need the rest of the country. So make excuses and whine, or give the States the right of secession. There is no reason for a civil war when we can just agree to end this now joke of a country [since trump was elected].

    We don't want you. We don't need you. So stop whining. Write your reps and demand States be given the right of choice.
     
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    That was an odd take on my comment. You must have misread.

    Anyway- to directly answer your question; I support the state's right to secede. I also support the federal government's right to remove all military installations, intelligence assets, and to erase their federal funding to them.
     
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    What's stopping you from forming this magical party?
    I think if we needed a states right party, we'd already have one.
    Seeing how successful third parties have been, I say go for it.
     
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  18. Sackeshi

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    The libertarian party is personal freedom and economic anarchy this party goal is to make the state governments all powerful in all aspects as long as they don't discriminate
     

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