Is Trump ARacist

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Well, that’s at least an original attempt to parse and deflect! (I think).

    Of course, while Trump’s race baiting has often been generalized, and occasionally focused on individuals, each of the examples you cite are one timers or personal attacks against individuals.

    It is typical of Trump’s vulgarity that he engages in public personal attacks, thus lowering himself and his office. Real leaders float above these silly cable tv news things.

    But Trump’s racism has been on open display since he anointed himself king of the birther eight years ago.
     
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    That’s the point. Congratulations on being able to see it.
     
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    You just can’t let facts stand for themselves. My post was a very direct response to a false claim that Trump only attacks non whites. Nothing more.

    If you’ll pay attention to my posts you’ll see I have no motive to parse or deflect. I don’t care what you think of Trump. He’s not who I wanted for president either. You’re vision is so clouded on this issue you completely missed that my post was a criticism of Trump.

    Try looking at the content of people’s statements independently of this issue. As I’ve stated earlier, running around labeling everyone a racist is counterproductive if a better society is our goal.
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He generalized, so what. It's not the way I would have said it, but so what.

    Just to make it clear, I do not approve of the way Trump tweets, and singles out individuals for criticisms. I don't like how he makes it personal, it's just not presidential, IMHO.

    I also don't like how too many people in our nation, especially politicians and the news media, toss around the phrase racist, Nazi, fascist, etc... at the drop of a hat. Just because a person makes a comment criticizing another person does not make them a racist, just because they don't have the same skin color or ancestral heritage as the person they are critical of.
     
  5. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Racist, nazi, etc doesnt mean anything anymore. All it means is that the accuser has run out of good arguments, or are too stupid to have any in the first place.
     
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    Why don't you answer my question then?
     
  7. truth and justice

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    That is the point (in red)! He saw black people and immediately grouped them all together and said that they should all go home = racism! He said it to them because they are not white. Other white democrats have said exactly the same as these black democrats but were not told to go back home.
     
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    When Trump starts rejecting the people of color who support him, then I'll believe he's a racist, because that's what a real racist would do.

    Until then, this is all just more leftist garbage from the Alinski playbook.
     
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    Your question has no relevance to my posts in this thread. I haven’t criticized anyone’s political views or brought up race. That’s your idea. :)
     
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    He said that Biden was "slow" and "low IQ".

    If Biden was brown/black, you left-wingers would have claimed that what Trump said was racist calling a brown/black person "slow" and "low IQ".

    Trump is not a racist.

    The only racists are the ones that see skin color in everything and constantly claim to be a victim because of their skin color.

    The American people are sick and tired of your race card crap.

    Stop it!
     
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    I remember when the usual suspects stated that referring to Obama as a monkey was not racist either
     
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    Actually they are sick of people who try and pretend Trump isn't a racist. Let me know when you find any white person Trump has told to go back where you came from.

    He has a very lng history of being a racist.
     
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    So that means you can cite the text to where he is demeaning another race or claiming his race is superior? We need to see the text entirely so we can verify your wild claims.

    Try not to deflect, I'm asking a simple thing of you...
     
  14. CourtJester

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    Try to read what I said and then disprove my statement nstead of trying to deflect. But if you insist.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    We aren't talking about criticism. We are talking about telling peopke of color to go back to where they came from. He has never said that to a white critic.
     
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    I think his send them back as well as his shithole countries certainly qualifies.
     
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    Not even close

    Neither refers to race in any way
     
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    What race is a Canadian.
     
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    Why is that racist?
     
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    Trump said Biden was "Slow" and "low IQ".

    If Trump said that to the squad, you left-wingers would have called him a racist.
     
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    He should, because they are.
     
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    Simple statement: No, he is not. What he said was spicy however.

     
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    Trump isn't a racist, he's merely a flaming bigot who thinks four congresswomen should "go back where they came from" which is defined as bigotry by federal law.

    And all those who are whining about "where did he say anything about race" in defense, its not surprising you wish to ignore the racist tropes he uses, nor the color of skin of those he's attacking. Its especially galling since the Dear Leader and Chief Bigot of America, is claiming that "all about the benjamins" is a horrible hateful anti semetic trope, used by those america hating congresswomen.

    The utter intellectual bankruptcy is to be expected from far right neo nazi scumbags and paranoid white nationalists and run of the mill racists, I guess.
     

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