AOC proposes to eliminate Homeland Security

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  1. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    America does and that is why Democrats who founded the KKK cannot escape from their past.
     
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    the KKK overwhelmingly votes GOP, nu?

    The southern conservatives left the Dems because the party did support Civil Rights and Voting reform, and so the conservatives who hate civil liberties for others moved into the GOP.

    All of America knows that.
     
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    KKK was founded by Democrats and still is run by Democrats. Just like ANTIFA, Communists and Nazi's. It follows Democrats around forever.
     
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    JakeStarkey said: the KKK overwhelmingly votes GOP, nu?

    The southern conservatives left the Dems because the party did support Civil Rights and Voting reform, and so the conservatives who hate civil liberties for others moved into the GOP.

    All of America knows that.
    :) Revisionism and Fake News that. No one has ever produced any objective evidence of the sort.

    Now Antifa and UnitetheRight are certainly anti-American, imo.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not quite. The white supremacists KKK are nationalists like Trump. They support Trump and the GOP in every way. The Nazis do as well. And speaking of commies, why is Trump snuggling up with Commie Vietnam and want to sell them arms??
     
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    JakeStarkey said: the KKK overwhelmingly votes GOP, nu?

    The southern conservatives left the Dems because the party did support Civil Rights and Voting reform, and so the conservatives who hate civil liberties for others moved into the GOP.

    All of America knows that.

    :) Revisionism and Fake News that. No one has ever produced any objective evidence of the sort.

    Now Antifa and UnitetheRight are certainly anti-American, imo.

    Wow, the Dems founded all that? Really?? Read #206 above.
     
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    Of course, it's Democrat ideology, silly!
     
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    :) This has been a bad day for the Republicans, indeed.

    To think they were the party that freed the slaves, and now today they have thrown all that away in order to suppress civil rights and voter liberties.
     
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    Lolz ... The GOP hasn't infringed on the "civil rights" of the Trump rally attendees who chanted "send her back" ... It's the DNC who's trying to "suppress" their "voter liberties". Not only does the DNC want to silence dissenting voters, they want to marginalize their balloting influence by gerrymandering the electoral college. Flooding blue sanctuary city's with illegals, ahead of the 2020 census is means to that end. So's making marginally blue states "winner take all" states that deprive dissenters of EC representation. Usurping EC delegates from the district voter to whom the EC delegates have been allocated is un-American. It reeks of totalitarian fascism.
     
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    Trump et al have thrown away the great GOP heritage.

    The American people are on to the fact he is a gangster.
     
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    I lived through that history and watched it happen in real time. Don’t waste your time on your silly code words.

    As for AOC, thanks for making my point.
     
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    One hardly knows where to begin with such total nonsense!

    What are “voter liberties”, and how to they apply to a mob of people behaving like bigots.

    How does on gerrymander the Electoral College?

    There is no plan to flood sanctuary cities, but there are a lot of talk radio types and trashy right wing blogs pandering and promoting this sort of paranoid nonsense to the same people who believed the fake stories about imaginary FEMA concetration camps.
     
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    Good grief. :roll: It's hard to imagine a more desperate and disingenuous deflection coming out of your mouth. "great GOP heritage" that you routinely insist, just did, suppresses minorities. You just yesterday scapegoated the party for Strom Thurmond registering as an (R) to avoid a (D) primary and thus keeping his Dixiecrat base intact.
     
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    It's hard to imagine that the Republicans would throw away the great history of defending people of color in the last few days to hold on to power through a decline white power base.

    Thurmond, of course, was safe in SC's party for election. He was untouchable. He went Republican because the emerging liberals in the Democratic Party espoused equality for people of color.
     
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    1st I clearly explained the gerrymandering. Warm bodies = House seats = EC delegates. Makes no difference if the bodies are US citizens. Sanctuary cities attract millions of warm bodies. Now strip red districts of EC votes by making the state "winner take all". 15 states trying to do that ahead of 2020. Voter liberties are pretty well outlined in the constitution, and it's the defense that "the squad" is invoking. Dissent = patriotism, and the right to lawful assembly is inalienable. "Send her back".
     
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    :roflol: Not nearly as hard as it is to imagine you, as of TODAY defending the (R) party's record on civil rights. WINNING!
    I'm an (I) and obviously not as familiar with the GOP's list of great achievements on civil rights. Please share some so I can screenshot them for reference. ::):
     
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    The Rs stand on CRs from the 1860s through the 1960s when they as the minority joined (somewhat willingly) the Dems was great.

    It's been terrible ever since, as the conservatives in the south moved into the GOP and forced the party's program back to those of the old segregationists.
     
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    The Republicans were, traditionally, for civil rights for Blacks, but in a very tepid way. Blacks were overwhelmingly concentrated, in those days, in the 'Solid South', in Democratic country. Republicans were as close as America has gotten to a traditionally 'conservative' party, which means they were not congenial to radical upheavals, and promoting civil rights for Blacks in the South was a radical upheaval. Nor were there very many well-to-do Blacks, so their natural party in the North was the Democrats.

    The Democrats, as the less conservative 'party of the working man', would have been more favorably disposed to civil rights for Southern Blacks, had the South been Republican. But it wasn't, and those votes were needed in Congress -- since Southern Democrats were generally, reflecting their base of poorer whites, who were (and remain) more 'liberal' on economic issues. Plus, since they seldom faced serious re-election threats, they built up a lot of seniority in Congress, which gave them a lot of power there.

    So Southern Blacks didn't really have many friends among the powerful in America. And then came the Cold War. America had to compete with the Communists in the Third World, and its treatment of Blacks in the South gave the Communists an unbeatable card.

    There is or was a joke: An American diplomat has to make a visit to a Russian city not too far from Moscow, and is driven there by a Russian. Russian roads, in those days at least (and when I was there) were nothing to write home about. After jouncing over some particularly bad section of road, the American made some disparaging remark about their condition --- "Whoa, you guys really need to do something about these roads." And his Russian driver shot back, "What about the Negroes of Mississippi!??"

    So the US elite became disposed to speed up the natural process, which was in train anyway after WWII, of extending full citizenship to Southern Blacks, but it still took lots of struggle, and lives, to finally achieve this.

    You can see the truth of this in the execrable J. Edgar Hoover, long-serving head of the FBI. His main interest during the Civil Rights era was in monitoring the Civil Rights movement (which did have Communists and their sympathyzers in it, to be fair) -- he notoriously tried to get Martin Luther King to commit suicide! He finally moved against the lynchers and bombers in the South, and their protectors in Southern police departments, because they were helping to destroy America's image abroad. And when the FBI decided to destroy the Klan, they were quite successful -- not always staying within the letter of the law, but who's complaining?

    Neither party has anything to be proud of.
     
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    ICE needs to be changed. AOC is correct. It was created in 2003 in response to the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. I don't believe immigrants attempting asylum ( which is 100% legal in our country) are terrorist. ICE shouldn't be responsible for patrolling or securing US borders; that task falls to the Customs and Border Protection Agency. Both parties are responsible for our dysfunctional immigration process. Back in 2013, the senate passed an immigration bill (bipartisan). Speaker of the house Boehner wouldn't bring it to the floor. GOP didn't want Obama to get credit for immigration reform. Right now, there are over 200 bills passed by the house that McConnell will not bring to the floor. DYSFUNCTION ON BOTH SIDES! The real problem is most people in the US really don't care about anything, outside of their own bubble. If they did, we would have a new better immigration process in our country NOW!
     
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    Really? Low IQ? Another one of Trumps talking points not based on facts. What is AOC IQ? The president making nonsense bully statements doesn't make him or his supporters look very intelligent.
     
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    Most likely somewhere around 75. She has high motivation and ambition with little to no common sense and a very low IQ. How do you explain someone intentionally tanking a deal that would have brought NY 25K jobs and $12 billion in revenue? I call that person an idiot. An unadulterated low IQ, complete and total moron.
     
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    I don't think AOC has a low IQ ... I would bet it's within one standard deviation of the mean, probably on the high side. In an IQ-contest between her and the President, my money would be on her.

    Her response to the Amazon announcement was indeed stupid. But reasonably-intelligent people can say stupid things.

    Her problem is that she is a bit impulsive, and has not made the transition from playing to her base, people as radical or more radical than she is, to operating on the national stage, where you have to appear reasonable and as bi-partisan as possible, even if your goals are radical, while retaining the loyality of your base, who will suspect you are selling out. Mr Obama was a genius in this respect. Anyone wanting to succeed in American politics should study his career closely.
     
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    AOC has high motivation and ambition with some common sense and an IQ over 120. She has no trouble running her critics into the ground.
     
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    Really. Very low IQ.

    And lol at "bully statements".
     
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    Over a period of many years, as the South got more prosperous, it is true that republican ideology became more accepted there. But that has nothing at all to do with why Democrats fought so hard to stop the civil rights laws from happening in 1964 and 65.

    Republicans have never at any point done to blacks what Democrats did to them. We fight daily to free America, to make it great again. Trump fights to remove laws and regulations and has helped blacks a lot.
     
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