Turkey To Retaliate Against Any US Sanctions Over S400 Deal

Being kicked out NATO because it demands it can be an independent nation doing business with nations who don't have a trade embargo? Them Americans really fail to understand what freedom means.

 

From a 2017 article announcing Turkey's signing to buy the S-400:

For NATO, the trouble with the S-400 weapons system is that it is not technologically compatible with the systems it has in place in Turkey - in other words, Erdogan seems to have decided to build a military capacity independent of NATO. "It makes sense [for the Turkish government]," explained Guney Yildiz, Turkey specialist at the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR), "because if everything is integrated with NATO, NATO commanders have full control over Turkish military systems."

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"It is a very significant development," said Marc Pierini, former EU diplomat and analyst at Carnegie Europe. "This is a missile defense system that is going to be hosted by the Turkish air force, and the Turkish air force has no experience of anti-missile systems, therefore it is going to come with a significant number of Russian advisors, trainers, and operators and so on. So at the top of the Turkish air force defense architecture, you're going to have Russians."​

https://www.dw.com/en/turkey-needles-nato-by-buying-russian-weapons/a-40475465

Having this in a NATO member country seems extraordinary when one of NATO's missions is to guard against any potential Russian military aggression. This puts Russians in sensitive areas within what is arguably a part of NATO's infrastructure, since Turkey's current systems are an integrated part of NATO.

Perhaps getting Turkey out of NATO is what Russia is aiming for with this deal, perhaps it is gathering intel on NATO, and so US, military systems, and perhaps it is both. Either way, Putin wins.

 

It’s not about that.
American military experts don’t think its a good idea for one country to have both systems. If Turks want to defy our experts then they should not have our weapons and should leave our alliance to do as they please.
Nobody is telling them what to do, but they know their options. They are an independent nation who can do whatever they want. But their independence does not mean that we must sell them our weapons if we don’t want to.

 

Dont agree with sanctions, because as Turkey said, it's their decision, they should absolutely be unable to get F35s.

 

Quite frankly i don't think the US should be selling f 35s to anyone.

 

If that was the case according to the US, than it wouldn't bully them with sanctions. Really that simple.

 

We need air defense system ! We have border with Syria, Iraq and Iran. Every week several rockets hit our towns from Syria.. Do you know geographic place of Turkey ?? We need air defense system much more than any NATO member... Greece has also S-300, nobody had talked about that THIS IS YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD

Turkey demanded air defense system from NATO for SEVERAL TIMES. You know nothing! We have been forced to buy S-400, because we had no another option...this is your fault.

Don't worry we are not happy to be in NATO currently please kick us!

because of your arrogance and selfishness.That his so-called alliance has been serving only interests of USA, not members' interest. You are very happy with your terorist YPG toys in our south border anyway.

 

Except Turkey wants both the F35s and the S400.

 

I realize that. They get to choose one or the other. Unless they buy the F35, then come back to Russia afterwards. But at that point the US can pull support for the F35 and leave them expensive hanger queens.

 

Since Turkey has bought Russia's S400 defense system the US canceled the F35 program.

 

Yeah they can't even keep their own military functioning.

I don't know why the Turks would want a missile system over the f-35.

The f 35 after all has proven that it can work within an area defended by the most sophisticated missile systems on the planet with relative ease and impunity.
In short it can fly anywhere in the world wothout fear of being shot down or even engaged.
I don't think we should allow it's sale to anyone but the UK and Israel.

 

One thing I don't understand. The S400 in an anti-aircraft missile system. Whose aircraft does Turkey need to shoot down? Their avowed enemy, the Kurds, don't have an air force. Do they fear the Greeks? Or does Turkey plan to confront Israel? Since the Russians provided the weapons, I would presume they aren't aimed at the Russians or Syria, Russia's ally. And Turkey also wants to trade with Iran, so that nation presumably isn't a target either.