You are poor and struggling to make a living because (capitalist bullshit)

Modern socialism minus state ownership is basically the nazi economic policy of private ownership byt government control and redistribution of the profits

 

Now that is perhaps the biggest pile of steaming BS many have ever seen.

Taken point by point....

1. Everybody "thinks" they have character. A miserable carpenter thinks he is pretty good, even many thieves see themselves as honest, because they "justify" their actions. There is indeed a wide range of motivation and character among people, and if you had any balance in your judgment you wouldn't question that for a moment. America provides opportunity- which has brought people with character and motivation to our land; made us the most desirable place to live in the world. That success and generosity in turn has cultivated unmotivated people who see no reason to excel when others have something you can take. IF you are poor, in most cases I could track that consequence back to a consistent flow of poor life decisions and a lack of motivation. Also known as.... Lazy. And that IS a lack of character.

2. "Impossible for everyone to live in dignity". Being poor doesn't mean you can't have dignity- lacking honor, character, respect for yourself and others does that. Dignity is not wealth- it's a personal characteristic. You can't buy it, and no one can give it to you. Yes, you can fake it, but then if you are a fake you still don't have dignity. You obviously don't understand dignity.

3. Freedom is not obtained through wealth- but wealth is obtained through freedom. Freedom to be all you can be, freedom to excel. The fact is that we already subsidize a large portion of our society by placing the largest share of the tax burdens on the smallest portion of taxpayers- the wealthy. The top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. The middle 23% pay 30% of the taxes. The bottom 47% pay none of the taxes.That is a pretty good redistribution of the wealth of the top producers- and a huge subsidy to those at lower incomes. You are confusing the welfare of society with the right to live well while producing nothing... Bernie would applaud that. After all, he got kicked out of a hippie commune as a young man, because he wouldn't work either; he thought his whining about the injustice he suffered was a "contribution". He still thinks the same way.

4. "Greed is a virtue". Then you must be virtuous, because you and others who think like you believe you are entitled to take other people's money.... and that is greed. While the wealthy have acquired wealth by consent of their customers, who have the choice to not buy any product they think is overpriced, the greed of the socialists is to take money they haven't earned away from those who have earned it, without their consent- by legal means. Dishonest means and process for sure, but legal. Justice is taking what others have earned, because you have not? That IS the true greed- demanding that you receive but do not produce. Nature has a law for creatures like that. It simply says, if you don't hunt- you don't eat.

We are the most generous people in the world. For the greedy, the people demanding entitlements to what they haven't earned- that is not enough, because they measure the generosity of society by their own comfort level. They think they are poor because someone else is rich- and while that belief allows them to dismiss their own responsibility to themselves, it also keeps them poor and destroys their character, if they have any. Many people who are poor do indeed have good character, have dignity and are good people. They are not standing with you, demanding somebody fix their lives- and when they do get a helping hand, they recognize it as help, not entitlement. When that happens, both sides benefit.

Nobody owes you anything. If and when you find a path to character- you will acknowledge that. You will take total responsibility for yourself- for what you do, what you say, what you think, what you feel, and all the consequences of your own choices. And if you get it right, that will give you the power to control your own destiny- and to become wealthy, if that is your goal. But until you accept that, you have no power to change anything, and will continue to feel sorry for yourself and blame the world for your condition.

 

Perhaps you could name a country where a socialist economy has provided a better life style?

 

Since I never made any such allegation your inane strawman is ignored for obvious reasons.

 

Please make more anti capitalism threads. Three is not enough! I'd like to see some real commitment from you and expect to see page 1 filled by the end of the day. If you are gonna do something, go all the way!

 

What strawman. I simply asked a question? You hate capitalism. What is better and why?

 

Yet another inane strawman ignored for obvious reasons.

 

Apparently you are afraid of my questions. You want to hate capitalism and say it without any push back. Standard left wing methodology.

 

Not wrong. A capitalist who only steals is soon out of business. A socialist who only steals is sanctioned by the government.

Who said anything about no regulations? Can you name any system or institution that does not require some regulation?

 

I take it you are trying to claim that our social security is a kind of socialism. Before you espouse socialism you should learn what it is. Lobster and shrimp are good things -- let's call them socialism.

 

You cannot provide a single shred of evidence to substantiate your bovine excrement strawman allegations which is why they are being IGNORED for OBVIOUS reasons.

 

Are you denying that the GOP has DEREGULATED and still is DEREGULATING?

 

Capitalism has never required genocide or driven people to commit genocide

What was pointed out was revisionist fiction

 

Hence our great economy

 

Yes, SS is a form of socialism and yes, it is a good thing just as Medicare is also a form or socialism and a good thing too.

Feel free to prove that they are NOT a form of socialism.

 

When all else fails they fall to insults.

 

You went from insulting to asking people to prove a negative. You know better than that.

 

WRONG, as always!

 

Just pointing out what you said. You sound frantic with that capitalization. Calm down. It isn't that important.

 

Some regulation is required for all systems and institutions. But more and more regulation is worse, not better.

 

Try to pay attention. Socialism is the government ownership of production and distribution. Social security and Medicare aren't even in the ballpark.

 

Possible because of Capitalism.

 

All regulations arise BECAUSE of violations of one sort or another. Removal of those regulations ENABLES those violations to be repeated.

If corporations STOPPED making violations they would not need to have more regulations.

However the FACTS PROVE that whenever regulations are removed the corporations IMMEDIATELY RESUME their violations because they are INCAPABLE of being "self regulating".

 

Which part of the term "form of socialism" needs to be explained.

Social security is OWNED by the government and it controls the distribution of benefits.

Medicare is OWNED by the government and it controls the distribution of benefits.

https://www.investopedia.com/articl...e-social-security-benefits-form-socialism.asp

 

Name the aspects of Social Security that are NOT socialism "because of capitalism"?