Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

Atheism of course continues to remain, by definition, not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn’t a sport.

 

My family were strong Democrats. We hated Lincoln. We lived in Alabama, Georgia and
finally Texas. We were destroyed in the Civil War. We left America for good. We take an
interest in American politics to this day. I personally love to listen to video lectures on
this history.
If I am wrong then I am interested in knowing how. Don't care about holding to a particular
belief - just in knowing. Thanks.

 

Wrong. Atheists are not required to cough up any proof. You’re trying to prove a negative. Why should anyone waste their time proving something is not true when it’s the burden of the believer to show evidence. You can’t produce evidence, it’s not true.

 

Never said failure to prove me wrong makes me right, but it does make you wrong to claim something does not exist that you cannot prove.

You most certainly are if you claim neither exist, you should have thought before you leaped aqnd shifted the burden of proof equally to you.

Everyone is watching the neoatheists claim an illegitimate exemption from burden of proof, if you think thats true show us any philosophy what so ever that supports that theory.

you got that backwards, not me trying anything, its you who decided to take a position that requires proof of a negative, your bed you sleep in it.

 

Do you what some cheese with your whine.

People can invent things from their imagination all day long.
There is no limit to what people can invent in their minds.
I do not have to prove their fantasies wrong.

You lost this argument a long long time ago, when you were playing the same BS in threads long ago.

 

I’m right when I say there is no valid evidence of a deity. Why should I believe in any thing without proof. I’m not a Trump supporter.

 

And there's no valid evidence, or even comprehension, how a universe could spring into
existence without physical laws or even reason for being - but that doesn't stop the modern
atheist for positing such a thing.

 

So, because you can’t find evidence, you make s.h.i.t up ?
Theists do that with everything. If they can’t explain it, it’s god’s will.

 

There is physics that explains how things could “spring into being” from “ nothing” . It’s called quantum theory. We’ve known about it since the early 1900s. You have a cell phone as a result. God didn’t make it. We did from understanding how things could ”spring” into being from ‘ nearly nothing. “

 

So too do atheists. It was a big surprise that science had some evidence there was a
beginning to the universe (the usual dodge was that it was here forever) But the more
vexing problem is what caused the Big Bang. It had to be, you know, a Miracle.

 

Quantum theory is fine, but kind of irritating in a conceptual way. Just ask Einstein.
But quantum operates within the universe - it's a part of it, like electrons, Higgs
fields and polar bears.

 

Of course, we’re making things up because we don’t know much science; but we can sprinkle a few words in there from science, and suddenly, we have woo woo.

 

It’s spooky because not many understand it. It was spookier when the tides came in and out and we didn’t know why. We did what all theist do, call it god’s work.

 

Actually, if you read the bible it d.o.e.s.n.t. q.u.i.t.e. say a lot of things atheists say.
Sure, it says God brings the rain, but in the bible it spoke of clouds bringing the rain
too. And it says God created life but it also says that "God commanded the seas to
bring forth life."
People who say God controls the tides are doing one of two things:
1 - giving an abstraction that God is in control of all the processes of the universe
2 - stating something that probably isn't in the bible, or not presented as they think.

The ancients observed (ie Caesar himself) there was a link between the moon and
the tides.

I have my own idea called "Skeptics of the gaps"
Skeptics said "There's no evidence the Jews were a distinct racial group. There's
no evidence of a Bronze Age Hebrew culture. There's no evidence for King David.
There's no evidence the Jews could write 3,000 years ago...." etc
As each statement was demolished the skeptic simply moved onto another objection.
That's intellectual dishonesty.

 

The Bible is filled with ambiguity. Intentionally so, as they’re needed to be a reason for everything, even those that were contradictory. This above all illustrates it was completely man’s work. Expect contradictions all through the Bible.

 

It's fascinating to read Genesis 1 with an o.p.e.n. m.i.n.d.
God created the heavens
God created the earth (and the earth was oceanic and cloud covered - like NASA's view of Titan)
God opened the skies to light
God created the earth (granitic continents rose from the oceans)
God commanded the earth to bring forth life (fresh water actually)
Commanded the seas to bring forth life
Finally - man. And not just Adam and Eve. Says there were others on the earth too.

So it's all complicated. As life and the universe actually is.

 

Please provide credible substantiation for these imaginary "modern atheists" making the same bogus allegation about the origin of the universe that theists fallaciously use.

 

Wrong!

Ever used a hand bicycle pump? Why does it get hot when you pump hard?

That heat occurs because you are compressing the air molecules which means that their energy is transformed into heat.

Same principle applies to the Singularity.

Compressing all of the matter/energy into a single object would have caused massive heat to build up in the core. At some point all of that heat energy would have exceeded the gravitational forces holding it together and the Big Bang occurred.

This is the exact same principle that we use in nuclear energy. In power plants we control the release of the heat to generate electricity and in bombs we use it for destructive purposes.

A "miracle" is nothing more than a lack of subject matter knowledge on the part of the beholder.

 

It’s ( the Bible) a complicated contrivance rather then one based upon evidence. Studying the Bible is not a search for truth, it’s a study of literature. Evolution is based on evidence and it can change some as more evidence is found; creationism is more certain only because believers are more dogmatic. They don’t have to change as more evidence comes to bear. They just disregard it.

The choice is simple if you have a sick child. Do you use medical science or a faith healer ? Think of everything in those terms, and it becomes more obvious why at least, an agnostic may stand a better chance of making correct choices in their lives.

 

This is totally different and is more in scale. There will always be some difference in interpretation of evidence in science of evolution, including the universe when the evidence is incomplete. As it accumulates as in climate change, concensus converges. In theism, Jews, vs Christians, vs Muslims vs Hindu can be totally different in the way they look at governance, which has a greater effect in our daily lives then how we view the universe. Getting religion and theism out and science in when making choices that effect people’s lives through politics, is an absolute must.

 

I have no intention being a biblical scholar, just like I have no intention delving into “game of thrones” for answers to questions that require real evidence.

 

Which theists have in abundance.

 

I’m not in the business of caring what people’s imaginations are. Their actions, that’s something else. Don’t conflate the two things. I’ll take the person who acts on evidence everytime over someone who just makes s.h.i.t. up to appease their imagination.

 

You are correct. The loss of religion led to the rise of politics in people's lives.
People don't focus anymore upon inner moral values but upon "issues" that
apparently stand in the way of their happiness.
We had some attack one of our Prime Ministers. This guy was a cause
pusher (you know, global warming, refugees, women's rights, whatever)
and his religion was his politics. Feeling the need to hurt someone else
wasn't a "sin" anymore, it was a "virtue" because there's only politics,
and there's where the virtue lies.
That's why there's been an increase in adultery, pornography, gambling,
drug abuse and the like. We are political animals now, not fallen souls,
so personal virtues simply don't matter - I steal because of the issue of
poverty and I hit someone because of the issue of gay rights.

 

Creationists don't believe in the sequence of events outlined here.
Neither do skeptics.
There are orphan verses.