Active shooter at CA food festival.

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Revisionism.
     
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    Exact.

    And because of that, thousands of Canadians don't die every year.

    We have the freedom to live longer, to have a 80% lower chance of being a victim of homicide, to have no chance of going bankrupt to access health care and to live in the best economically managed country in the world.
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    oh, the only reason people commit murder is because it's not illegal to have a gun? I'm blinded by all the "common sense."

    It's illegal to commit murder. If you are willing to commit one of the worst felonies, a lesser crime probably doesn't even register.

    You don't prevent theft by banning the ownership of lock picks.



    But no ability to defend yourself, so no right to life. No thanks.
     
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  4. Polydectes

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    Other places are. In Scotland you can be arrested for jokes, Canada you can be fined for speech, the UK you can be arrested for tweets. Look around the developed world they are becoming police States. The first right to go is freedom of speech and of the press.

    If that's advanced, no thanks.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
  6. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    The day you find a simpler way to kill, guns will remain the tool of choice.

    Owning a gun gives the illusion of safety.

    If the opposite were true, the US would be the country with the lowest crime rate in the world.

    Do you at least know that this is far from being the case?
     
  7. Polydectes

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    And banning them is a magical spell that makes all of them vanish.



    No it gives you that. It gives me a possible tactical advantage. Not owning one ensures you don't have that advantage. So if somebody wants to kill you they can just blow your brains out and there is nothing you can do.

    Being defenseless is never a tactical advantage.
    Guns aren't the the source of crime if they were the crime rate around gunshows and shooting ranges would be higher than places like Baltimore and Chicago.

    Stupid points are stupid.
     
  8. BillRM

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    An those laws you do not like mean that those countries are police states????????/

    An of course if those sames laws was pass and upheld by the US SC you would begin killing law enforcement with you firearms?
     
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    Yes. I don't like them because they are police state laws.

    you should. If you don't value your freedom move to North Korea.
     
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    That spell work in the UK and other nations an did work in the US when it came to such firearms as thompson machine guns.
     
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    Hmm so the UK or Japan for example without private firearms is not good enough to move to????
     
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  12. Polydectes

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    So things like Sandy Hook are conspiracies? That took in an area that had a total gun ban.

    It's much easier to kill people that can't fight back.

    Why do you want to promote mass shootings?
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Why half ass it. If you hate liberty go big.
     
  14. Arkanis

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    Not ban them, but do a strict control.

    The owner of a gun is 75 times more likely to commit suicide with it and 85 times more to kill someone accidentaly than to stop a criminal....

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/06/17/guns-self-defense-study_n_7608350.html
     
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    interesting, so you think that the police shouldn't have guns...
     
  16. BillRM

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    That your claims that unless you have access to firearms able and design to do mass murders you do not feel free.

    Without being able to buy such a firearm and within day used it to kill innocent people you are not free.
     
  17. Polydectes

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    There was strict control in Sandy Hook, and in parkland, and in Columbine.

    Strict control doesn't work.



    this article is dishonest. No surprise there. They only counted justifiable homicide.

    There are events where you can use a good defensively and not kill anybody.

    It's amazing how people need to be dishonest in order to hold this opinion.
     
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    Lol without the police needing to be concern about anyone being able to own a weapon of mass murder the police would not need similar weapons.

    If I remember correctly most police in the UK are not carrying firearms.

     
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    Do you think so?

    In Canada, it is very difficult for a civilian to buy an AR-15.

    Mags have a maximum capacity of 6 bullets.

    How do you explain that the crime rate in the US is 43% higher than in Canada?

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime
     
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    no gun ever made is designed to murder. if they were you could prosecute the people who designed them. They are designed to fire cartridges. If you choose to murder people with it that's your choice not the guns design.

    no not being able to purchase a firearm for self-defense makes me not free. And it makes you not free also.

    if your government demands when someone puts a gun in your face that you I must die if that person decides to shoot you you have no right to life.

    That isn't freedom.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    Legally. It's probably incredibly easy to get one illegally.

    I'm sorry but that's profoundly stupid law. you can switch magazines out it takes less than a second to change a magazine.

    This is what happens when you let morons make laws.



    this is irrelevant to the discussion. Guns do not equal crime.
     
  22. Arkanis

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    LoL

    The military uses them to kill when they should be used for something else?

     
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    if the police think because something is illegal no one will do it they need to not be police.

    and if someone has a firearm and uses it against a police officer that police officer is dead or injured and has no way of defending herself.

    You can't defend against the gun with the baton.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    That makes no difference. They are still designed to fire a cartridge and that's what they do if you use it to fire a cartridge into your neighbor because they parked their car on your yard that makes you a murderer not the gun.

    If you chop his head off with the machete that doesn't mean the machete was designed for murder.
     
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  25. Arkanis

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    You claim that a gun protects his owner from being a victim of a crime.

    However, the country with the most armed civilians in the world is less secure than Canada, where guns are strictly regulated.
     

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