Another mass shooting deserves a better answer.

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Who? That's easy. Americans with weapons of mass domestic destruction. Do you suggest it is someone else?
     
  2. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you 100%. We are setting an atrocious example. Even before those poor bastards get put on those islands, they have to get around Operation Sovereign Borders which reeks of illegality, and is imbued with political secrecy. All done under Conservative Governments.
     
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    So AK47s are weapons of mass destruction? You mean Bush was right?

    You need to avoid CNN’s talking points.

    What about Mexicans with weapons of mass destruction? Yeah, I know, that’s different.
     
  4. Bush Lawyer

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    Bush was not worried about AK47s, was he?

    We don't (or I should say....I don't) have access to your CNN.

    Was there a Wall Mart mass slaughter in Mexico today?
     
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    I pose the same question you do. After all these mass shootings, if you still hide behind the 2nd Amendment, you don't have an argument. You're using the 2A as a strawman. It's a insult to our Founding Fathers, an insult to the families of both the decreased and living, and denying the reality of the situation we are living in here.
     
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    Of course the left only cares when the deaths can be used for political gain.

    If only the left could find a way to politicize the violence in inner cities. You would be loaded with talking points instead of only getting to drool over mass shootings every once in awhile.
     
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    Serial Killer don't make Manifesto.Because they don't plan
    on getting caught.But Patsy's { Government Brainwashed tools used
    for a Political aim } surely do.
    You see a Manifesto ... It's almost guaranteed to be a Government
    Patsy.You aren't thinking past what those in Government expect.
    Like Trump criticizing Urban city's and the rotten way Liberals have
    let them decay.Because Liberals Like it when a group is permanently
    dependent.Plus taken for granted.
    Therefore the desperate need to change the Narative.
    5 will getcha 10 Tomorrows - Meet the Press - won't bother with
    Baltimore anymore.Or L.A. or San Fransico.
    Just Guns ... guns ... guns. And Blame the Republicans.
     
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    I think that trump is goading the deplorables to commit more acts of mindless violence with his demagoguery.
    He's also packing the courts with racist white nationalist judges and likely following putin's orders in pulling the US out of the INF treaty to give cover for putin's arms buildup agenda.
    He is the reality show version of a Manchurian candidate and poorly educated right-wingers have bought his lies and are now actively worshipping him as their savior and murdering in his name, all while he is selling out their country to save his own sorry ass.
     
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    Bowerbird,

    Using the Mother Jones criteria those two family shootings don't actually count as 'mass shootings' because they only count events in public places. People wiping out their families at home don't get counted. That undoubtedly lowers the US figures, but it also means that since Port Arthur the only mass shooting we have had that can be compared to those figures is the 4 dead in Darwin this year.

    For me that is still one too many, but it is impressive given where we were in the 80s & 90s.
     
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    Sanity is to realize that 29(!) people have now died over two days in the Unites States in two mass-shootings. (Assuming Sunday's shooting death-toll of 9 is minimally correct.)

    Innocent people who went out shopping or otherwise enjoyed their weekend.

    Had these 29 people lived in any country other than the US there is every chance they would still be alive on this Sunday.

    Or at least they would not have died in a barrage of gunfire.

    Sanity is to realize that gun-laws work to keep citizens safe.

    We don't hear about these mass shootings, on a regular basis, in other countries, do we?

    That's because most countries in the world are doing something right when it comes to the laws of gun-control.

    Sanity is for US laws to follow suit. Now!

    But, with an insane President in the White House, how long will that still take...?
     
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    You just want to take away people's right to choose to own a gun.
     
  12. Bush Lawyer

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    Yes. I do.
     
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    So, that's 80.233(!!) gun-related deaths in the United States over the last 6 years. And 2019 is only just half over.

    That number would have totally wiped out the average population of a local community in my country. (The Netherlands.)
    Even a nuclear bomb couldn't have done a better job...

    This gun-violence is a WAR that the United States fights with itself. Plain and simple.

    Who would not choose to end it...?
     
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    Owning a gun is now a necessity because a Trump fan can shoot you anywhere.
     
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    When did I blame Obama for gun violence?
     
  16. Bowerbird

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    I doooo! And I know lots and lots more too!

    Now you just earned this!

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    No I posted data on who commits mass shootings
     
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    Says someone who cheers our POTUS bringing in families who lost a loved one to an illegal in order to gain political support for his wall.
     
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    The cleverness of Australians never fails to amuse me. Thanks for your effort.
     
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    Do you have any reliable statistics on this or are you talking out of your ass?
     
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    Then you have to accept this premise. That when Obama was president, the mass killings were done for Obama in his name. Obama left this mess. Did you think Trump would fix what the rest of the Democrats never have?
     
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    If this mass killer was into politics, he would have ran for some office.
     
  23. Stuart Wolfe

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    Lemme see, what nice thing can we say about Oz ... well, they're the only ones out there who make the Kiwis look good!
     
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    Where did i say that?

    Surely you can produce a quote from me because there's no way you'd blatantly lie for the sole purpose of insulting me right?.......

    Also, your complete and utter failure to respond to what i said is evidence of its accuracy.
     
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    Australia bought back 650,000 guns, America has between 350 and 400 MILLION. If the United States pays me EXACTLY what I purchased my Guns for and guarantee's that a Criminal with a Gun won't be able to break into my home with a Gun and Kill me, I'll sell um back in a Heartbeat. Guess What, that ain't gonna happen, so my Guns are secure in my safe. If the Government tries to steal um from us law abiding citizens, We might as well load um in the Truck and dump um in the worst neighborhoods in our area with a Free sign.
     
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