Won't Leave? Well then do this america haters.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jonsa, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. James Evans

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    Sources for any of that. You are spewing more right-winged talking points. I can source Trump's lies.
     
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    He is just pissed off at life.
     
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    What happened to you can’t compare the US to other countries. Australia no mass shootings no we are different. Canada has good healthcare no their population is smaller. But Honduras omg we are so becoming them. It’s amazing the comparison. I mean Honduras military rule right. But we have a draft dodger who talks crap on veterans. The ones we need to worry about aren’t ruthless aren’t gangsters they are just very rich. And they just use that money to influence the susceptible to do their bidding for them.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You will not get an infraction from me. Life is not fair. There are many variables. Do you think government can make it fair? Government is run by people. Do you think they can be trusted given the power to make it "fair"? If so, I am in strong disagreement with you. I believe government power must be constantly restrained. The Founders felt much like I do. Work hard and give out of your abundance. It is a personal responsibility I believe. I prefer black and white to shades of grey where my liberty is concerned. Can we find common ground?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Canada you wait an eternity to see a doctor let alone a specialist.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is, Kalifornia could get more electoral votes if a population increase is seen and illegals are counted as citizens.
     
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    My point proven. But is an eternity hours, a day, or months? Or is it what working class Americans experience. A specialist for someone going paycheck to paycheck. Its heartbreaking just knowing that is impossible for my people. I miss the bliss of not knowing things and peoples struggles.
    And that there is an up tick in people getting sick because of fecal bacteria in pools. I mean so that means no matter what I’m absorbing fecal matter.
     
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    I'm going to stop you there. Yes, people can help, and gov't is people. Who else are you going to count on?

    Meh, I've tried it solo in this world. It doesn't work. I wish it did.

    And yes, Trump needs to be restrained. He is a fat pig of a human being who will die alone because he has the spirituality of a turnip.

    Sure we can find common ground. I think we just did in a way.
     
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    And I’m saying to you what evidence do you have to make such a claim. What person in congress is trying to give them more votes. To say they are getting more says that middle of America where farms are getting decimated, where jobs are leaving left and right. Where there has been displacement because of flooding and tornadoes. Where immigrants who worked those farms are gone and scared.(they did not get more votes when that migrant workforce was in the thousands) What state has had their electoral votes taken because of a decrease in the population?
     
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    Not if you have money. That is such a...…..wait for it...……..

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    Look I understand fully about the census granting California more votes. But you said you voted in Arizona and Cali will steal your vote. That means Arizona should have less votes. Texas should have less votes. But the biggest winners of the 2020 census is Texas and Florida. A red state and a swing state. But California already takes a hit. Based on their true population and before the constitution changed because of fear of big cities and for fairness lol. Cali and new York should have way more representation in Congress. Any less and it’s like giving welfare to the lower populated states. California can actually lose a seat or two
     
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    I don’t have to think Trump lied on that level over the last two years.

    I have the evidence. Much of which is on video.
     
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    Trumpster whataboutism is sinking to ever newer lows.

    Trying, for the umpteenth time, to divert the discussion to Obama isn’t going to cut it.

    Did Obama add ten imaginary stories to the height to a building?

    Did Obama try and sell you a fake Trump Steak?

    Did Obama call up newspaper columnists and pretend to be a friend of his while promoting himself?

    Did Obama stand up in the State of the Union speech and make flagrantly false claims about crime in El Paso.
     
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    Government is made of people but government is force. If you don't relate to people well.....maybe force is the on;y way for you.
     
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    Well, pure socialism is based on everyone doing equal work and taking equal profit. But, just like capitalism, human greed always corrupts it. There are always lazy people who want all the benefits, but don't want to pay their fair share. You will never get a successful form of socialism because of this.

    But, at the same time, you will never get a successful form of pure capitalism either for this same reason.

    Without human greed corrupting them, BOTH would lead to economic utopias.

    But as it is, both require some form of regulations to keep greed in check. This is why most successful countries have always has economies which use both, including the US.
     
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    Some Muslims you know speak bad about Jews so therefore I’m going to be prejudiced against them. I am sure all those neo-Nazis and white supremacist who chant “Jews will not replace us” must be Muslims.
     
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    You can’t Ignore history. Blacks and women were denied the ability to get ahead. We lived in a white patriarchy so you sound like you are blaming the victims of the patriarchy. If you notice women and minorities are taking advantage of opportunities they never had and it will take several generations for things to equal out. Sometimes just saying “personal responsibility“ is not enough. The person working hard at McDonald’s is trying to support our family. That person is working hard
     
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    Incorrect, but I get how you actually believe that it of specious nonsense. Apparently you are completely unaware of your own prejudices as you express them in offering your "opinion". I didn't say racism I said prejudice but I also get how the terms are interchangable in some people's minds.

    I don't ridicule or hate anyone who worries about mass migration. Its a legitimate human problem.
    I do ridicule and hate racists and ethno=bigots regardless of the topic they might opine about.

    That's a lot of koolaid you been drinkin'.

    Lessee:

    1. Send all the jobs to China? I see capitalism isn't your bag.
    2. Trade Deficit under the Dear Leader INCREASED BY 40%
    3. National Debt under the Dear Leader INCREASED BY $3 TRILLION
    4. Take Money from poor under Dear Leader Cuts Medicare, food stamps, school lunches, increase consumer taxes (tariffs)by $30B
    5. Give Money to the Rich under Dear Leader - 85% of Tax Cuts to the wealthiest 10%, govt revenue down $1trillion.
    6. Bailouts under Dear Leader - $15 Billion to farmers (%80 to top 10 agricorps) and more to come

    I could go on, but it seems your Dear Leader is even worse than a lone brown rookie congresswoman in transforming the country into the craphole you fear.


    The ol' international evil banking conspiracy controlling the world has been a political/cultural trope for at least a millennium usually including jews/rothschilds. Of course its lost on most that without the international financial system capitalism could not function.

    Trump is a bigot, a liar, a cheater, a crook, a molester, just the kind of leader to take America in the "right direction". Character means nothing in Trumpland.
     
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    I just want the evidence he lied 10K times in 2 years. It's insane to think that he lied that much. As far as telling lies go, I'll take Trump over the lies of Obama, any day.
     
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    Why is a person working at McDonald's trying to support a family? Are they the manager?

    If teachers taught correctly and told people that min. wage jobs are not for supporting families, maybe people would be better off.
     
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    Of course money opens doors. But an 18 year old with no money and no job and living at home has the same voting rights as Bill Gates. Are you saying the rich get "better" voting rights?
     
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    The ten Thousand lies are supported by his actual tweets and speeches. Just Google .You say it’s insane to think he lied that much but what is really in i sane is that you do not believe he did even when they are showing coming from his own mouth and tweets. OK let’s say that half of them are wrong is 5000 lies OK? Are 3000 lies OK? Are 2000 lies OK
    Trump knows his base. He even said that they would defend him if he shot someone. He sure appeals to them. Tell me about the lies of Obama. I think you really believe that Trump had the biggest inauguration ever and that he saw Muslims celebrating 911 in New Jersey . Those Are pathological lies but you believe whatever he says. This is why he talks to his base like they are stupid
     
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    Hey Bucky why aren’t you a multimillionaire because people are so much better when they’re multi millionaires. Come on you can do it.
    I guess putting down somebody who works at minimum wage makes you feel better. Some people need to work there. Show some respect
     
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    Member Snowden? Member when Obama said it is easier for American youth to buy a Glock than a book? Member being able to keep your doctor? Member peace promises? Member beating unemployment? Member hope?

    I member.
     
  25. Renee

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    I don’t believe you actually took it literally about buying a Glock. But they say sarcasm is a high form of humor. Do you think Obama lied about keeping your doctor or was he mistaken? By the way most Americans were able to keep the doctors. Yes I remember hope and he gave us that by rescuing the economy from a loss of 700,000 jobs a month. But then again would you call trump a liar? How’s the debt? How’s the deficit? How’s the new health plan? How was our relationship with our allies? How’s America great again....We are a nation of dangerous bigots who get support from each other and the president
     

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