Mass shootings and Trump

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

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    We know the first two mass killings were by white supremacists influenced by Trump's hate speech. It is possible, in Betts' mind, he was retaliating against white supremacist extremism.

    Or, he just wanted to kill his sister.

    In any case, he was motivated by the first two mass murders. I don't believe in coincidence.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do believe in false narratives though. I bet you believe the manifesto why he wanted to kill but I bet you don't believe the manifesto when he said he was radicalized before Trump came along.

    The Dayton shooter was just mirroring AOC, of course that isn't a problem for the left and CNN has yet to inform the public about this.

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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do recognize the fact the Ohio shooter was a Fauxhontas fan who believed in socialist principles and supported gun control.
    The El Paso shooter was radicalized long before Trump became president and was actually inspired by the Mosque shootings in New Zeland do you not?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only foolishness I see is not blaming a shooting on the shooter
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only foolishness I see is having an esoteric conversation about why the house caught on fire while it burns to the ground.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually Lee, in this case, the democrats set the hose on fire and then wondered why the house burned to the ground.
     
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    More like you lefties and youlr non stop sccusations ... opinions and hurt feelings ... everyone is sick and tired of the nonstop made up attacks on trump . You guys are like rabid dogs. The countryl, and the world has had it with the bs. First it russian collusion , zero proof , then he is a racist , then he wants to bang his daughter , then you accuse him of going to kiddie bang island , no proof , oh he grabbed puzzy , he cheated on his wife, Russian collusion again, muller report , no charges , you dont care , back to ralcist... oooh he gonna start world war 3 ... oh he is responsible for global warming , mass shootings , racist , collusion... oh and although there were no chlarges , and nobody on the trump team colluded with Russia.... obstruction of justice ... for the love of god . Look at yourselves ... sickness.
     
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    I'll repeat what Liberals say every time a Muslim makes a terrorist attack here. 'The person or
    persons who carried out this act are a statistically insignificant portion of those who follow that
    set of beliefs in this country.'
     
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    Not when one denies a connection and the other has a history which said he is likely to do it. I am darker than two of those representatives, by the way.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Uh no trumps big mouth didn't cause crap. Youy know it I know by now everyone gives a damn about the Truth knows. El Paso dude wrote one paragraph about illegal immigration and three about environmental issues, he could have been on the Democratic podium and not sounded all that out of place.. Sure doesn't sound like a white supremacist to me sounds like a poor screwed up kid who hated a lot of people including himself.
    Dayton man was a far left loon from the get go. So no if anything two years of the leftist hatefest cannot be held blameless in these. None the less no one other than the shooter is responsible for their actions.
     
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    Trump said today, "In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy."

    Following Charlottesville Trump told us white supremacists "were very fine people."

    “The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate," Trump said today.

    This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” says an anti-immigrant online manifesto by the accused gunman.

    "Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process. This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!" Trump once tweeted.

    The shooter traveled over 600 miles to get to the largest city on the Texas/Mexico border to kill as many Mexicans as he could. He killed 21 people and injured 27.
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Were there mass shootings during the Obama Administration? Di mass shootings become more prevelant during the Obama Adminsitration? Does that prove that Obama was responsible for the shootings?
     
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    "Trump has repeatedly warned of an "invasion" of immigrants, preying on people's anger, fear and frustration and intentionally trying to divide the country. Earlier Monday, he pointed fingers at the media: "News coverage has got to start being fair, balanced and unbiased, or these terrible problems will only get worse!"

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/trump-rhetoric-el-paso/index.html
     
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    The fact that you have to flat out lie and mis-quote speaks volumes.

    What he ACTUALLY said:

    "Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process," Trump wrote on Twitter on Oct. 29, 2018. "This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!"


    Which is 100% factual and correct.
    Try again.
     
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    Actually I voted for Johnson, and yet I still find you delusional.
     
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    And that inspired an Elizabeth Warren supporter, anti-Trump democrat to commit mass murder.
     
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    Obama did not use inflammatory rhetoric that encouraged white supremacists to take action. Please read the OP.

    Also, as I recall there were few if any mass murders by white supremacists during the Obama administration. Now we have three within a span of eight days.

    Also, the number of mass shootings have increased since Trump took office.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/
     
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    Trump has nothing to do with these shootings.

    Only partisan saps believe otherwise and no evidence of any kind support the idea
     
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    Trump encouraged no one either
     
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    That makes you partially responsible for Trump. You wasted your vote on a candidate who had no chance of winning.

    Were you protesting? Feel better now?
     
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    Why didnt you pick up a gun when Trump said those things and go kill innocent people?

    Because it isnt actually Trumps fault as you are partisan trying to make it.

    Sandy, you should be ashamed of yourself for using innocent deaths to push your anti trump agenda. Really, it's so unbelievably shameful.
     
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    I'm not a partisan hack, so I vote who best aligns with my principles.
     
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    Black is white. Day is night. Reality is something to be avoided.

    The Trumpian mantra.
     
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    Liberals think humans are mindless robots that must be controlled by higher powers. We on the right believe that individuals are accountable for their own actions. One of the big differences between the left and right. Individualism vs groupthink.
     

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