This is the gun control legislation Mitch McConnell won't allow senators to vote on

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  1. Sahba*

    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    I'll let U marinate on the 'redonkulusness' or that assertion'... ! Are U serious, super - super 'Surrious'...? I encourage you to put political / ideological blinders on and examine the facts in an A-partisan fashion... :) S
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry I do not love Obama. I don't often like Trump but will not participate in cheap shots.

    I provided the full list for Obama but you cherry picked. Obama is the winner hands down.
     
  3. Bowerbird

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    No

    You compared eight years to two

    THAT is disingenuous
     
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    I think it's a bit disingenous to assume he has malicoous intent and isn't genuinelly passionate about the right to keep and bear arms.

    The left gets donations from all sorts of interested lobbyists on a variety of issues.

    Believe it or not, people feel just as passionately about guns as you do about whatever it is you care about. You might disagree with them and we can and do have discussions on the topic.

    But these evil nefarious actors who actually dont give a **** about the RKBA and are just exploiting the issue for profit... are few and far between. Just as those on the left who don't give a **** about union rights and just exploiting the union money for profit... are few and far between.
     
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    IMO. You own the projectile until it stops. If you fire, your projectile best stop in your target. You should only fire if your life or someone else’s is in mortal danger. It is an incredibly serious responsibility when discharging a firearm.
     
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    I doubt that he even read it before they loaded it into the telepromptor. He usually doesn’t. And he regularly demonstrates the carelessness and indifference that he customarily pays to things he doesn’t really care about. Ask folks in Toledo (or anywhere else, for that matter.)

    And it will be only a matter of time before he goes back to the race baiting, mexihate, and incitements that his mobs love so much.
     
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    No, it’s about McConnell’s influence in the NRA. He plays a significant role in deciding which candidates they put their money on.

    And control of the major donor money is the key to McConnell’s power.

    It has nothing to do with gun rights, or civil rights.

    it’s about money and power, something McConnell understand perfectly well.

    He also knows that Trump is a buffoon, and that the best strategy for handling him is to keep him bottled up and away from any susbstantive political activity.
     
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    Even though the laws in Texas are fairly loose when it comes to concealed/open carry, private businesses are allowed to prohibit customers from being armed. I suspect the decision to do so is going to cost Walmart a great deal of money in civil lawsuits.
     
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    Maybe it's mental illness? Are you saying Americans generally are more mental
    than other countries?
    In Australia the mentally ill don't have access to guns.

    It's up to the gun lobby and gun enthusiasts to come up with viable solutions to
    what has become a public health issue in the USA.
     
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    The U.S. Constitution takes precedence over state constitutions.
     
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    Mental illness, video games, insert-the-excuse-here. ANYTHING but guns, Trump’s incitement’s, or bigotry. ANYTHING!!!!
     
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    Years and years of dehumanizing people has accomplished what for you outside of stroking your ego?
     
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    Which covers the Dayton shooter?
     
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    Why deny the obvious? Human beings generally try to avoid being shot.

    "Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfill your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers. Do not throw away your life on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day.”
    El Paso Killer’s Manifesto, Personal Reasons and Thoughts, 8/4/19.
    https://media.8ch.net/file_store/7e...cedfb854dbdd7c3559b1c5afa0e15d63402d39934.pd
     
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    So why don't "gamers" in other countries "go postal"?
    Why don't foreign mentally ill people do their own Sandy Hooks?
    Reason - guns.

    Plenty of people got shot under Obama - why didn't they blame HIM?
     
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    They did.
     
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    The record belongs to Norway. 77 murdered - 69 by gunfire.


    "2011 Norway attacks

    2011 Norway attacks

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    31 minutes after the explosion in Oslo
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    Government quarter (Oslo)
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    Utøya island
    Locations of the incidents in the Oslo and Buskerud counties of Norway
    Location Oslo and Utøya, Norway
    Coordinates [​IMG]59°54′54″N 10°44′48″ECoordinates: [​IMG]59°54′54″N 10°44′48″E
    Date 22 July 2011
    (UTC+02:00)
    Target Labour Party[4][5]
    Attack type
    Car bomb, mass shooting, terrorism
    Weapons
    Deaths
    • Oslo: 8
    • Utøya: 69 (67 from gunfire)
    • Total: 77[7][8]
    Injuries
    • Oslo: At least 209
    • Utøya: At least 110 (32 by gunfire)[9]
    • Total: At least 319[10][11][12]
    Perpetrator Anders Behring Breivik
    Motive Far-right extremism, Islamophobia[13]
    Terrorism...

    "The 2011 Norway attacks, referred to in Norway as 22 July (Norwegian: 22. juli)[14] or as 22/7,[15] were two sequential lone wolf domestic terrorist attacks by Anders Behring Breivikagainst the government, the civilian population, and a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp, in which 77 people were killed.
    Wiki
     
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    That number seems high, do you mean .01% of all gun deaths including suicide?

    Edit, I think mass shootings would be much much less, like 1% of that .01%.
     
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    How many of those crimes will even be solved?
     
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    Really?
    A few did in Australia, but then there was the Howard Govt "buy back" and crackdown
    on assault rifles and semi-autos. Hasn't been a mass shooting since.
    They did in New Zealand too. But now that country is following Australia's lead.

    I predict - there could be a mass shooting seven days a week in America now and
    nothing will be done.
     
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    Totally false, pinging an IP is not how to locate someone.
     
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    Incorrect you never had such a right to begin with.
     
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    There have been mass shootings in Australia since Port Arthur and the legislation that was supposed to end it. Here is the list of all massacres in Australia. Gun and non gun. Just scroll down past Port Arthur and start reading. As soon as you hit the first one(hint: it happened 3 years after the new laws) you should come back and correct your statement to reflect facts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

    And there will be plenty of mass shootings here in the states. The gang violence here is ridiculous, but at least they usually keep it between themselves.
     
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