Merkel wants a german Aircraft carrier

Some people even know an idiot when the see it.

 

Right, but many of those on our side of the iron curtain don't. An alliance make up of Baltics and the former Warsaw Pact countries make more sense than the current configuration.

 

They must have thought National Socialism just sounded nice. Otherwise why put it in your party's name if in fact you are not socialists. SINO I guess.

 

So i am correct. Sure I read what my post said. My major points is that the Nazis freely named themselves socialists. And enforced it.

 

i also lived in Germany. I talked to a lot of Germans and listened to them. i was engaged to marry a German woman who came from East Germany with her mother and father. I admit to her our interest was not in dealingf with the Nazis. We spoke more of Soviet Domination than the Nazis.

I found in Germany a good level of very good education. You even fight with other Germans so fighting an American is in your character.

Serving in our Army we had a number of German citizens in our Army to get to be American citizens. I did not know all of them, but those I knew would discuss Germany with me.

I do not want to lie about Germany to any poster.

 

Read the NATO Charter of mission. I did when Bill Clinton was the president. It stated it is defensive. But even Trump uses it as an offense I believe since he put more American armor forces on Russian Borders. So had Barack Obama.

 

Maybe time to use that budget to start paying off the state debt.

 

I wonder, will Merkel's carrier be nuclear powered?

Most large aircraft carriers generally are.
How will the German public (very anti-nuclear) respond?

 

So I think we've all agreed that Germany should be free to build an aircraft carrier.

Should Germany also have nuclear weapons for defensive purposes? Not a large land based army, but a nuclear weapons program.

 

I am German, West German. We apricate what the Marshall plan has helped us to accomplish. East Germans don't.
Fine difference.
You were engaged to a East German, if that is your reference point, well...….
It is healthy that a nation can fight over its politics, it is what I call the manure/fertilizer of democracy. I am a farmer.

I was in the West German Army, special forces, the US Army was driving a recruitment, with super bonus and pay, they came into our barracks, or had official presentations, I was a Sargent of a rather special force.
I did not fall for the crap the recruiters told me.
I was right, to many of my friends are on the wall in Washington and for what ?

 

No you are incorrect. All the social programs you talk about were already in place. None was invented by the NAZI.

I have encountered that thought process in the US by the far right many times, claiming that the NAZI were not far right, because of all the social programs. The social programs are all pre NAZI, the NAZI just used them or as in payed vacation increased them.
Not a invention of the NAZI
The US far right is desperate to put some daylight between its self and the NAZI and invented this story of NSDAP socialism.
Opposite the NAZI sold industrial assets, privatizing, do get money into the bank.
If you want to be a serious discussion partner do your research.
Start with the Reichsbank, the Feds, who is on the board, and than check, which companies they represent.

Do your homework, before spouting BS.
My last family member of that board died in 43, sitting on that board.

 

You still live in West Germany?

 

Germany should be able to do what it wants, nuclear weapons, carriers or what ever.
But for what ?

It needs neither of it.
It needs a army of its current level which is very well equipped and functional, nothing more.
Small but very good.
Germany should continue its joint unit program, invest in it, especially with the East European countries, which has been very successful.

 

Yeah, I guess as long as you have guaranteed protection. Nuclear weapons, in realist theory, prevent wars.

 

At the present I live in the best State of the US, Colorado.
My family lives in West Germany, which I visit frequently. Leaving again end of the month for a lengthy visit.
Embracing your brother after a year, is such a stunner, especially if you get older, not much time left for that.
This time it will be after 2 years, can't wait for that and the party we will have with all our old friends, way back to grade school.
The hang overs world record.
Promised.

 

Nuks are a act of desperation. I went through that scenario when I was a soldier in briefings.

 

They prevent the possibility of a Chinese Invasion of the US or Russia taking all of Europe. But if I were German or Japanese I'd sure sleep better having them.

 

They contracted Porche, a private company, to build them.

 

KdF was free.

 

True, i would advice medical help for alot of people here.

 

Germany reduced its state debts massive in last years

From 80% of gdp in 2010 to 60% in 2018

https://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/germany

Yours is 106%...

 

This seems very odd, it would be a little use in German home waters and without a German equivalent of the RFA impossible to deploy overseas.

 

There will be no majority in the Bundestag to finance this idiocy.

 

It was a popular word at the time, and they needed the working class votes. The goal was always a military dictatorship.

 

There was a majority to finance lunatic merkelist rubbish like Energiewende or other bullshit Merkel shits out like spending 40 Billion € per year to feed terrorists and other 3rd worlders