White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Mac-7

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    Foreign adults who move here are not Americans even if they eventually become US citizens

    We want to preserve American culture because that culture made America great

    Which means welcoming every race, creed and color but only in moderation
     
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    Untrue by any legal or constitutional definition I'm aware of.

    Who's "we"? American "culture" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people many of whom probably have different perspectives than yours but they have a vote which is equal to yours because they are American citizens just like you.

    So how are you going to feel when people of color become the majority and decide they want to "moderate" the number of white people they are going to allow in?

    Just FYI, I'm not particularly advocating for that because I personally could care less about now much melanin is in anybody's DNA. My guess is we are going to end up a predominantly mixed-race country anyway because that's the way things seem to be going right now.
     
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    Nationalism here is just people in the USA who still believe this is the best country.

    Since somewhere around half of white people still believe this is the best country, I guess it is OKAY for those against nationalism TO BE RACIST against whites and call it white nationalism. Anyway, that is how it is going.
     
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    Nationalism is not about "love of country". Nationalism is about trying to redefine your country including who you think belongs.
     
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    That is incorrect. Nationalism is the endeavor to maintain national autonomy rather than accept other countries authority or a one world government's authority.

    White Nationalism is the movement to retain equal rights for white people. It is blowback for the creation of protected classes that now have more than equal rights.
     
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    It takes more than a piece of paper to make someone an Ametica

    A US perhaps but not an American in soirit
     
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    If the minority majority hates America and wants to recreate the hellhole they immigrated from in this country I will be brokenhearted

    But if they have properly assimilated and leave the old ways behind thats all trump supporters ever wanted and skin color will not matter
     
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    You're entitled to your opinion but it's still legally and factually wrong.
     
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    Could just be an outgrowth of people of color who have been here for decades or even centuries.

    I'm not convinced that's 100% true of some of them. Of them of whom it is true, I imagine they will carefully consider their vote next time because: A) He's done practically nothing for them and B) They might think twice about wanting to be associated with his hateful and divisive rhetoric now that morons have decided to shoot at children (many US citizens) purely based on the color of their skin and who now feel they are walking around with targets on their backs.

    At least that would be my hope.
     
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    No country can exist when its pulling in many different directions at once

    We want only as many immigrants as we can assimilate
     
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    Texas,New Mexico and parts of Louisiana were settled and populated by Spanish speaking Mexicans for 300 years before they allowed Moses Austin to move there in the 1800's and the Mexican American war did not take place until the 1840's when these adreas were then opened up to Europeans other than Spanish.Mexicans were there long before we were.
     
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    I don't see the point of that poster as a political statement.

    Maybe it should go in the law and justice section since it relates mostly to personal and gang crime not politically motivated mass assassinations?

    What with this and trying to pin the Dayton shooting with ZERO evidence on political, rather than personal, motivation; there's a whole lot of fail going on right now.

    El Paso was a political act as detailed in the shooter's very clear and ugly manifesto.
     
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    Figures, you obviously hate public education
     
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    When they use the same rhetoric as the president he has some responsibility. When he says that some neo-Nazis are good people he has some responsibility. When he stereotypes Mexicans as rapists and criminals he has some responsibility. Obama did not want to see military weapons in the hands of crazy people. Why Does anyone need those guns other than to make insecure men feel more powerful
     
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    Oh yes they are per the definition of the US Constitution no matter what you say. And their children will be solid Americans. Everybody's ancestry are immigrants at one point. You are living in denial if you think none of your bloodline were immigrants.
     
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    You can pretend that Trump has not motivated white nationalists and pretend that all these new websites and organizations are just fake news
     
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    Many immigrants love America more than Americans. Your viewpoint not withstanding, they are true Americans.
     
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    Good Grief. That is the philosophy of tyrants. To Blame TRump for things he did not say is how Tyrants operate.

    Democrats have to be flakes to blame killers over things they think Killers heard. Prove the killers paid attention to Trump. The El paso shooter says it is not true.

    Trump did not say Neo Nazis are good. Trump is far too careful to label each who came to save statues had to be a nazi.

    i loathe nazis yet had I been at Charlottesville, where I have indeed been, I too would raise hell over removing those historical statues.

    So apparently you hate my guts too.

    Antifa are the nazis in my view.
     
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    You mean immigrants that used the system and took an oath to America.

    But we call them illegals due to them being here illegally. Why would illegals be loyal to this country?
     
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    When did you learn that from killers? What killer can you name that agrees with you? Why was it that when Obama suffered mass killings you did not blame him for his hateful rhetoric?
     
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    Who say anything about illegal immigrants. I said IMMIGRANTS which means legal. And you have come to an asinine conclusion about abusing the system because I can assure you, AMERICANS (the one who is born here and many of them WHITE) abuse the system much more so than the immigrants ever will.
     
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    My ancestors came to America about 400 years ago. So am i loyal to England or to my own country?
     
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    So their nature is to be my superior according to you then???
     
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    So your ancestors weren't loyal to America. Perhaps they should have been booted back to England the minute they set foot on this land.
     

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