White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By the way the present American system is not the system of the founders. It has changed due to FDR to a system that jails legal immigrants and their children when FDR was president. Watch Democrats sing his racist praises.
     
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    This land was run and owned by England when mine came here. So what loyalty must I show? When legal immigrants flaunt our laws,. why praise them?
     
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    I think you need to get rid of that strawman you've been carrying around.
     
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    Do all immigrants act like what you are accusing them of doing? Who is "praising" them? Quit making up things I didn't say.

    Your ancestors are English who showed no loyalty to England. Got it.
     
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    He very clearly said that some of those neo-Nazis marching in Charlottesville were some good people. I don’t see any neo-Nazis as good people. Obviously we have different values.And you’re defending them as they marched with the Hitler salute chanting, Jews will not replace us” was just about statues...sure Believing that it was just about statues speaks volumes about you and I probably would hate your guts too.
    I don’t like antifa,s behavior at all....But comparing the neo Nazi message with their message just shows us how we are on different pages...because yes, I am against fascism.how is antifa like nazis?
     
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    Sorry but you sure seem to have praised immigrants. So why would the worst of other lands suddenly be good in this country? Do you recall the Mafia? The Irish gangsters? Germans that FDR jailed though legal immigrants?
     
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    I remember the Jews and yes I remember the Irish and Italian’s. They were fleeing from worse lands and I think they have contributed a thing or two to this country
     
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    You are all over the map with your nonsense. The MAJORITY of immigrants are peace loving, hard working people who CONTRIBUTE to this land. I can see you do NOT like immigrants, legal or otherwise and are using every excuse in the book not to just come out and admit so. So your illegal immigrants nonsense is just a red herring.
     
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    I not see why either since he did not specify nazis of any stripe.

    no, i didn't say i admire those types. Clearly you are upset about Jews.

    How angry are you to learn how FDR treated Jews? Essentially he told the Jews they will not replace us so he had them forced back to the arms of Hitler where they were often killed.

    There are a hell of a lot of fine Americans who happen to admire those statues and believe those inspire people to learn our history.

    Those of us that know the true history of Abe Lincoln realize he invaded Southern states to impose his dictatorship.
     
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    Hell no. I like legal citizens. If they show up as legal, I have in my past hired them. But take Kelty who I hired. Kelty came from Ethiopia. He stole money from me. I guess he is a fine legal immigrant too.
     
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    So why in your opinion did FDR whom i consider the father of our DNC today so hate Jews he kept them from entering this country?
     
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    I am very unhappy about FDR what he did to the St. Louis. But obviously you support that because you have no compassion for people who are seeking asylum the way the Jews did. And for you to believe that those people with Nazi symbols and the torches or not symbolic of white supremacists then you are just as bad as they are and none of them were good people. They just needed those decorations for statues. LOL. And your last line tells me exactly where you stand. IN your world no one could be opposed to slavery , they have to have an ulterior motive. It’s not in your realm of reality that anyone could oppose that.
     
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    I do not appreciate snotty comments.

    A good many loyal ordinary Americans back keeping those important statues here. Charlottesville wanted to remove them. Fortunately the hell raised caused them to recant and the statues are still there. Thank god.

    Antifa is a fake issue so they can fight. Do you truly believe they are anti fascists? They lied to you.
     
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    you obviously think it was the right decision
     
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    Look Renee, I will refuse to discuss things with you when you keep lying about me.

    So now torches makes you a Nazi? I wish you had told my former wife she was a nazi to watch that small woman beat you about your head and shoulders. She loved Torches and was a strong Democrat.

    So you actually believe that false narrative Abe invaded due to Blacks?

    Study history.

    I informed you about FDR to scorn him. All you are is unhappy.

    He was wrong to bar the Jews so i scorned him.
     
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    Look, you make no case that I agree with FDR who scorned the Jews. I do not scorn Jews.
     
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    Renee, I and most legal immigrants do not want illegals to jump our border. Judges rule on them and tell us very few need asylum. You believe the lies told by Democrats yet i do not believe their lies.
     
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    This remark is pure Bull poop.

    Lincoln in no fashion invaded VA over slavery as he himself stated.
     
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    I don't believe you after you said this:

    "Sorry but you sure seem to have praised immigrants."

    Are you trying to walk back on your comment now? Why shouldn't I praise immigrants who have become good contributing members to this country and who joined the armed forces in its defense??
     
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    New? Name them.
     
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    Correction then. I was of the belief My comment is directed as to illegal men and women
     
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    White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

    This isn't about semantics.

    Describing neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and members of the KKK who participated in an armed invasion of Charlottesville, VA, Trump said, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

    Describing four women of color who are members of Congress and known as "The Squad," Trump said, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.” All four are American citizens. Three were born in the U.S. The fourth came to the U.S. as a child.

    Elijah Cummings is a black member of the House of Representatives from Baltimore, and he is chairman of the Oversight Committee. Trump described Cummings' Seventh District as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess,” Trump added “no human being would want to live there.” Trump has engaged in a week long attack on Cummings, each tweet becoming more vile than the last.

    A mass shooting occurred at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in Gilroy, California, on July 28, 2019, at 5:40 p.m., resulting in four deaths—including the gunman—and 12 injuries. The shooter, Santino William Legan, was a white supremacist.

    The suspect, Patrick Crusius, in a deadly mass shooting at a shopping mall in El Paso, Texas, yesterday was widely identified on the internet as a young white man whose social media activity showed support and sympathy for Trump’s apparent white nationalist agenda.

    You can call Trump's malicious rhetoric white supremacy or white nationalism. I simply don't care. The point is, his rhetoric is very dangerous as the past ten days have shown.
     
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    I think its between the Ameican citizens and illegal aliens/refugees and their citizen allies on the left

    I know most hispanics will vote dem

    But more than a few will vote for trump
     
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    Who is the Alt-Right—Racists who believe Jews are trying to replace the white race with what some Whites believe are the inferior races.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/comment...-replacement-theory-alt-right-killers-el-paso

    And the white Nationalist Movement is as racist and evil as Black Lives Matter movement, and government affirmative action programs. You know racism is racism, no matter how you color it.
     
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    “Hateful and dividive” are liberal democrst talking points

    Trump means to end illegal aliens invading our country and that alone is fighting words for the left
     

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