White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    A trend is it? Please provide the source(s).

    Please do so.

    We both know you don't know the data. Are you still pretending otherwise?
     
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    I know what I need to know and you obviously don't.

    You can impossibly have missed the problem Germany has had with ISIS attacks the last couple of years unless you have been living under a rock. Add to this that Germany has had numerous both Left- and Right Wing attacks and even ones that can be traced to the conflict between Turkey and Kurdistan.

    Germany does not have a clean sheet when it comes to political and religious terrorism. I would even say that Germany are the champions of Europe in this field.

    I am not making it up. Violent crime is dropping in the US while it is increasing in Germany.
     
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  3. Reiver

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    So the trends showing you're right is actually secret knowledge? Wowsers!

    I haven't asked for any opinion over terrorist activity across countries. I've deliberately asked you to refer to the data. Why can't you?

    You're obviously talented at coming out with pointless sentence.

    Present the data in support of that claim. Its not difficult.
     
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    Trump is the only political figure who actually wants to make America better

    Immigration and trade with china are la dmark issues that only trump takes seriously
     
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    Like a kid prodding an electric plug with a "god bless america" wire? You're looking good!
     
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    Wage and price controls may be ok in your crappy country

    but a better way for America is to raise wages naturally by deporting illegal workers
     
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    Liberals seem content to be subservient to the chinese dragon
     
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    Were you eating a Chop Suey, thinking it made sense, as you typed that? Derive a non-food argument
     
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    Trump thinks all the problems facing mankind can be solved with rhetoric. Today, Trump went to a great deal of trouble to convince his base that, when it comes to meaningful background checks to eliminate all the loopholes, he really means it. Of course, everyone else did not believe him because they have heard all this before and, in some cases, they knew he was outright lying.

    In 2013, Trump said he supported background checks for gun purchases to “weed out the sickos.” Two years later, he flip-flopped and said he opposed expanded checks.

    In late February the White House issued a statement warning that Trump would veto proposed legislation to enhance background checks for gun purchases if it passes the House and Senate.

    In 2018 Trump, after the high school shooting in Parkland, Fla., insisted that stronger checks would be “fully backed” by the White House. But that position only lasted a few days. After a late-night meeting with the National Rifle Association in the Oval Office Trump backed down and nothing happened.

    On Friday, in the wake of massacres in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, Trump presented himself now as a deal-maker eager to bring Democrats and Republicans together behind tougher background checks. Please, no one laugh. This is serious.

    On the way to his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. Trump said Friday that there was “tremendous” support for “really common-sense sensible, important background checks” even as the NRA. and gun rights supporters vowed to oppose them. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, was “on board,” Trump said.

    Trump was lying.

    In a written statement issued Thursday, Wayne LaPier, NRA's CEO, said none of the gun control proposals being discussed would have prevented the most recent attacks. “Worse, they would make millions of law abiding Americans less safe and less able to defend themselves and their loved ones,” the statement said. He described many of the proposals as “soundbite solutions” that “fail to address the root of the problem, confront criminal behavior or make our communities safer.”

    That doesn't sound like the NRA is onboard.

    Neither is McConnell. With some skepticism as to how this will play out, he expressed a willingness to consider a measure expanding background checks for all gun purchasers, saying it will be “front and center” in a coming Senate debate on how to respond to gun violence. There is nothing new here. The House passed a universal background check bill in February. So, what McConnell is saying has been true for months. He is just buying time, knowing this will blow over and grassroots Republicans want nothing to do with the Democratic bill. It matters little what Trump says.

    “There’s never been a president like President Trump,” Trump said as he left for a 10-day vacation.

    Stop that! No one should laugh.

    This source helped me with this report: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/politics/gun-background-checks.html
     
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    This is without a doubt the most disgusting photo I have ever seen in my life. The photo was taken inside an El Paso hospital. On the right is the First Lady holding a two-month old baby. The baby was orphaned by the El Paso killer, Patrick W. Crusius, who wanted to kill Mexicans.

    On the left is the President of the United States, grinning with a thumbs up as though proud of himself. The revolting photo is stomach-churning.

    There is definitely something wrong with this man.

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    When Trump announced his candidacy in 2015, he said, "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

    https://time.com/3923128/donald-trump-announcement-speech/

    At a political rally in El Paso in February, Trump expressed pride in ICE who "he said had picked up immigrants for tens of thousands of crimes, and ticked off a list of those crimes and the stats that he claimed accompanied them.

    "When he got to murder — he claimed there were 4,000 immigrant murderers swept up by ICE in the previous two years" without offering any substantiation for the figures or a source.

    “Murders, murders, murders. Killings. Murders,” Trump said during that speech, which was recently resurfaced on Twitter by journalist Aaron Rupar, prompting chants of “build the wall” from the crowd in Texas."

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...migrants-murders-killings-texas-a9044526.html

    Patrick W. Crusius, 21, told police that he had targeted Mexicans, according to a document written by Detective Adrian Garcia of the El Paso Police Department.

    The gunman wrote a four-page manifesto that said he was carrying out the attack in “response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas.” The El Paso mass murder represents the deadliest attack to target Latinos in modern American history.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/el-paso-suspect-confession.html
     
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    We Christians might want to do some serious thinking and more praying concerning the poor and the stranger.

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    Probably so

    Fringe groupe tend to attract unstable personalities

    ANTIFA is another example
     
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    Illegal aliens do not belong in America

    They break our laws by being here and are responsible for much crime and social problems

    NO one I know supports what the shooter n el paso did

    BUt the invasion from mexico must stop
     
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    The reason that they hire Mexicans is because they can’t get Americans to do that work. It’s so interesting that these Mexicans are illegal and yet those who hired them aren’t being dragged away in handcuffs separated from their families.
     
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    I know somebody who fights against healthcare for Americans is your idea of somebody who wants to make America better somebody who deliberately divides the country in your opinion is somebody who wants to make America better. Someone who sucks up to the worlds worst dictators really wants to make America better. Trump sure knows his base
     
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    Thy said the same thing about Jews....
     
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    Nationalism is not supremacism. It's only the "progressive" left that has perverted the definition to falsely claim that both words mean the same thing.
     
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    That's funny.
     
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    Who is "they" ??
     
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    How many refugees do you host in your home?
     
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    Good Christians who needed a group to scapegoat..same dance, different steps
     
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    That’s as stupid as saying people who are against abortion should adopt 20 kids
     
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    No one is talking about just nationalism but you are cloaking bigotry and white supremacy under the word nationalism. Or is it just a coincidence that these marching “nationalists“ don’t like Jews all blacks and want the country to be white and Christian Maybe that is the kind of nationalist you are but I’m not
     
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    So if that's stupid, then you think it's perfectly ok to advocate for no abortions and not do anything personally about unwanted kids?
     
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