China Continues to Place Muslims in Camps. The Left Continues to Shrug.

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  1. FreshAir

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    yep, Theocracies are not very tolerant of others beliefs

    now I work with many Muslims and Christians, all good people
     
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    Actually, if Iran is considered a "theology", it is quite tolerant of other recognized religious groups, including their beliefs and their practices. Indeed, Iran is one of the few places on earth where you don't need armed guards to protect a synagogue and its worshipers going about their business. And the same is certainly true of Christian churches who operate in Iran. The only real exception, which I would note to be fair and accurate, is the following: Iran isn't tolerant of those who try to convert Muslims into their faith. Practicing your faith is totally fine in Iran, but attempts to bring new adherent to the faith isn't. That is also why adherent of a the Baha'i faith were persecuted by Iran, as the Baha'i religion started in Iran and sought converts among the Muslim population.

    In mentioning the above exception only to be accurate and fair, please do not assume that I endorse or justify it. I am personally not religious and do not favor the expansion of the hold of any organized religion on people anywhere. At the same time, especially as long as the activity in question isn't done in conjunction with ulterior political agendas and motives, I still have this naive belief that people should be free to think what they wish (and to choose their beliefs from a genuinely competitive "market place" of ideas).
     
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    were pretty good here in the USA other then with the Peyote religion, we only allow certain races to practice that one
     
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    I dont see the problem. I see Islam as a dangerous ideology, Chinese official's point of view obviously concurs with mine and they address the problem. Maybe we should learn from China.
     
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    You just hate businesses that provide the goods and services we need

    And who would provide jobs for American workers if we cut off access to America from china
     
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    My belief is that it has more to do about the uighir? minority than religion. Han population is 80%+ of China. The province is one that is not 'chineefied' and that's about it.
     
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    The topic is china not syria
     
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    You hate the American worker I know because all you care about is profit for the billionaires..
     
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    Americans cannot be called workers if their jobs went to china

    Trump is trying to bring those jobs back
     
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    The Ughars are Turks. Erdogan and his side kick Devotoglu a few years back, were running to different countries to arouse loyalty to their fellow Turks, and not to the nation they were living in. China was one of those countries.

    To give you an idea of what was going on, Merkel even banned Erdogan from speaking to the Turks in Germany because many were being threatened if they didn't show their loyalty to Turkey rather than Germany.
     
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    Those jobs should come back because I don't believe in globalism - except on a smaller scale. But the transition has to be gradual because the prices we'll be paying for goods will be sky high.
     
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    It is pointless to put Erdogen onto a situation involving china and its mistreatment of an ethnic minority
     
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    I agree! All one has to do is look at the Palestinians. Millions of peoples in the last century were displaced from their homelands, yet they were all resettled - but not the Palestinians. No Muslim nation would take them in so they went to Lebanon, a Christian nation.

    The reason they didn't take the Palestinians in is because they consider this world as well as the other world part of their faith. Any land a Muslim lives on must always be under their own laws and institutions. Not to be so, would be an insult to Islam and its triumph and supremacy of over others.

    Israel, as a former Muslim land means the Palestinians have to do everything in their power to retake it. That the Palestinian people suffer because of it is considered their fate in life. They are also kept in poverty deliberately so they won't become lapsed in wanting to take it back.

    This holds true in other cases as well. Christian nations are considered a fertile field for the expansion of Islam, so Muslims are encouraged to go there and remain there. They are not allowed to return home until those nations become a part of Islam.
     
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    Israel aka palestine was populated by Jews before the muslims came along
     
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    As a Communist country, China is pretty much immune to criticism from Liberals. It was the same way with Russia before the
    Communist government was replaced. Liberals managed to ignore Stalin murdering millions so suppressing Muslims in China
    is pretty small potatos to them, though if Trump did the same they would regard it as the greatest crime in history. China also
    executes more people than any other (Iran is number two, and is number one per capita) - but Liberal death penalty opponents
    manage to ignore that as well.
     

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