Homeowner shot a 14-year-old during burglary attempt. The 5 other teens with him were charged with m

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It does not matter if you care or not....and it is a funny vid, too.
     
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    He probably did feel intimidated and fearful. By definition 75 year old men are fearful and intimidated by teenagers because of their mere existence. Since the man didn't call for help immediately nor shoot the joy rider that stayed with his shot friend indicates that he was probably in shock over what he had done.
    Non-lethal incapacitating weapons are the solution.
     
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  3. Bush Lawyer

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    This is the relevant bit:

    Now that..........that is not just controvertional, it is draconian.
     
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    If by not stepping foot on his property with ill intent, this whole situation could've been avoided.

    Why even suggest that the property owner needs to sit in his house while a crime is occuring on his property?

    He should have the choice. He should have the choice to confront them, or the choice to sit in his home and call the cops in hopes that they'll get there in time to not only prevent the crime that's occuring, but also before they get the idea to see what kind of goods grandpa has inside.
     
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    One of them was advancing towards him with a knife. I doubt the perp was going to offer to help with dinner.
     
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    Oh.....here in Australia, we are well used historically to juidicial over kill. Some of the poor bastards who helped the Poms colonise Australia were sent here by the British system for the most heinous act of stealing food to live.
     
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    Okay. Well.......it would have been okay if he raised and aimed his weapon......said "Back off or I shoot," and if punk failed to back back off and continued the advance armed with a knife known to the Old Guy......blaze away.
     
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    Say WHAT?
    That's a rather strange assumption. Nobody I know of is afraid of teens "because they exist".
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

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    I agree with you. However, the Citizens of the USA appear to be under seige. Many live in fear, not freedom.........because the place is littered with *******s carrying guns.........and even some....just petty car thieves who get shot at......and at 14 years of age.......perish. Something is askew Team USA. "You have a problem" and guns are not the answer.
     
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    I like this version of you, shows testicular fortitude.

    Practically speaking though, it makes sense to strike first if you're within your right to do so and feel you may pay the ultimate price for doubting your survival instinct.
     
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    Or for being Irish. One man's rebel is another man's patriot.
     
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    Well maybe you should focus on that problem rather than trying to work out when it’s OK to shoot each other. :cool:

    I never suggested he didn’t have the choice, I was just answering the question of what might happen if he’d made a different choice. You’re the one who is automatically criticising one choice, if not quite saying it shouldn’t be allowed, certainly condemning anyone who would ever consider or suggest it.
     
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    Lol...Sounds to me like there are a lot of cowards in Texas.
    The Duke would be ashamed.
     
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    In this situation, just shouting at them or putting on the TV really loudly would have got them to flee
     
  15. Bush Lawyer

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    Nah. No-one was transported from there to Australia for merely being Irish. If that were the case, Ireland would be empty and we'd have all the "Murphys" over here. We don't. Mind you, I am sure we have our fair share, and welcome they be.
     
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    del
     
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    Lol, what? That is exactly how it should be. What could you possibly have against this?
     
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    Stuffed if I know why you consider Aussies lack 'testicular fortitude.' We just do not need guns to deal with asholes. Caveat....the Cops here are a tad gun happy. Civilians use chairs and milk crates.

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    Oh please.

    You're a peaceful person, I gather that, but criminals don't. They're predatory, they understand violence and the threat thereof. Restraint is perceived as weakness. Yeah, maybe you'll get lucky and they'll just take something, but it's often enough that that's not enough for them.

    It's a simple principal. Do not attempt to harm me, because I have no bad intentions for you, but then again I'm not going to tempt fate and hope that you're satisfied by some first motive, as that's already crossing the line... therefore I'm free to protect myself from further harm, even if that means employing lethal force.

    Don't start none, won't be none. Criminals need to understand that their life is in the balance each and every time they violate the freedom and safety of another individual.
     
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    Hence we have now armed our coppers with these. :)

    Cops milk crate.PNG
     
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    Someone invades your home it doesn't matter how old they are. You're justified in using Force to stop them.

    We aren't talking about an innocent little child here.
     
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    I laughed my arse off first time seeing that image. Epic... a friggin milk crate caging that nutters head.

    I'm glad everything worked out in that scenario, it's the best case scenario.
     
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    I thought I have already exlained it. Force used in response must be commensurate with the threat.......and not freedom to....blast away when other reasonable alternatives were available.
     
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    So if you are outnumbered 5 to 1 you are going to use milk crates. That’s not testicular fortitude, that is dumb. I can see that if it is 1 on 1, or maybe 2 on 1, in public. If it is at home, where my family is sleeping, I take no chances. Once I get positive identification and a single warning, if that warning is ignored, i shoot to kill.
     
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    He didn't know what they wanted. they could have wanted his life he's not a mind-reader and our laws don't require people to be.

    This should be a lesson do all the other little teenagers out there you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
     
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