Fox News Poll: Most back gun restrictions after shootings, Trump ratings down

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  1. rcfoolinca288

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    Well then, why don't we just get rid of laws that say criminals can't own guns. Who cares if the mentally ill own guns. Let's have a free for all. After all the 2A say nothing about criminals not able to buy guns....right? Hell, why need any laws at all since by your logic, criminals are going to break the law anyways.
     
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    that's brilliant reasoning either no one's or criminal or everyone is.

    I happen to think if you do something that is illegal then that makes you a criminal you're going to pay consequences however. Making everyone else have to pee you lip service so you can feel like you're doing something while ignoring the problem of criminal Behavior things to be idiotic to me.

    those stupid mentally ill thinking their citizens. They shouldn't have any rights. It's not like they're people.

    Why do you hate and the mentally ill what did they ever do to you?

    no no no let's have the 4th Reich where's the mentally ill aren't people and don't deserve rights because you want to feel like you're doing something.
    let's just get rid of all the amendments people shouldn't have rights they should do what they're told it get executed.

    Exaggeration is fun I think I better at it than you are.
     
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    then add in the penalty, if the state never abuses it, wont cast a penny
     
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    it's too easy for criminals to buy guns, maybe we should make it harder via mandatory background cheacks

    and requiring all guns be locked up when no one is home, so kids do not get into them and shoot up schools... maybe make the parents liable
     
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    Your logic, not mine. If any criminals will act no matter what the law is then why bother having the law? Your logic yes?

    Your words, not mine.

    Who say I hate the mentally ill??

    I see. You think the mentally ill should be able to buy firearms? Got it.

    All you had were a bunch of useless strawman.
     
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    One, a 223 is not a high powered round. It’s rather anemic as far as rifle cartridges go. There’s not a whole lot of selection in lessor powered rifle cartridges. A few obscure kid sized cartridges, some dating from the late 1800’s. A few others designed for close range varminting.
    Secondly my closest neighbor is 400 feet away and happens to have a brick house. After that the closest neighbor is about 1000 feet away.
    Depending on bullet construction most pistol rounds could have more penetration than the 223. Just use a highly frangible projectile in the 223 and there’s little chance anything being effected downrange.

    Seems to be a reoccurring problem. Liberals with myopic vision thinking everyone’s reality is exactly as they experience. What’s worse is liberals experiences rarely coincide with reality.
     
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    Last I knew the NRA educates school children for free. Willing to bet most instructors would be happy to donate some time.
    Banning and collecting weapons won’t be cheap. Use your imagination on the costs of such follies.
     
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    LOL so did you self suspend your license because there are drunk drivers?
     
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    I'm sorry but your guarantee is not as reassuring as whatever firearm I may chose to defend myself or others.

    Thousands of loyal Americans have died to defend our Constitution from enemies who would limit Americans to butter knives for self defense and as a Veteran, I already took an oath to defend the entire Constitution from its enemies who threaten it from without and within.

    Additionally, the 3 times I have had to deploy a firearm while previously living in a rough inner city neighborhood were not "paranoid fantasies" because not all of us have lived sheltered lives while being immune from the cruel realities of the real world.

    The following source cites just a few examples in February of the realities faced by ordinary citizens like me that gun banners consider "paranoid fantasies".

    "New Cases of Armed Citizens Stopping Criminals in February"
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/08/new-cases-of-armed-citizens-stopping-criminals-in-february/
     
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    Substitute Chicago and New York.
     
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    Streamline the process ?? The only thing it does is make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to defend themselves.
     
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    Penalty for what ?? Providing medical treatment for the mentally ill and protection for their potential victims ??
     
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    You can't fix this with laws. Criminals aren't affected by laws. We have developed a culture of anger and intolerance. Work on that. It is the only solution.
     
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    I don't believe that she did lose her job for hanging up on 911 callers but am not positive.

    At any rate, the old maxim that: "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away" remains true.
     
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    I don't care what the majority "feels". A right is a right and not subject to popular will.
     
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    How would it make things more difficult if all of it is all handled by the dealer?
     
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    That's why we're a constitutional republic and not a democracy.

    The sans-culottes want mob rule...
     
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    Exactly. The founders were very aware of the dangers of.the tyranny of the majority.
     
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    Time, expense, and aggravation resulting from government bureaucracy.
     
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    penalty for putting people in a metal facility for false reasons - IE abuse of the law

    no one has issue with real mentally ill getting help, but if one put say Trump in a mental hospital against his will for political reasons....that would be abuse.. Trump may have mental issues, but the law would not be designed for cases like that

    to prevent that I suggest a 1 million per month payment to anyone subject to such abuse - unless the state fears there will be a lot of abuse... it will cost nothing to add that
     
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    In government its almost impossible to be fired no matter how bad the worker is
     
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    What If it is no cost and streamlined to be done by the dealer? Furthermore how many people would this discourage that had a legitimate need or want for a weapon?

    You never answered the question, do you believe people should have to have ID and be registered to vote?
     
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    The dealers will almost certainly charge a fee for their service
     
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    The legal system covers that.
     
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    Jfc, y’all have her entire name but are too lazy to look it up and would rather speculate to fit your narrative. Pathetic

    She was not only fired she served 10 days (should have been many more)

    Former 911 Operator Who Cut Short Thousands Of Calls Is Sentenced To 10 Days
    That former operator is Crenshanda Williams, who has been sentenced to 10 days in jail and 18 months of probation on two counts of interfering with an emergency telephone call.

    Williams worked at the Houston Emergency Center for about a year and a half before she was fired in 2016.
     

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