Portland protests Aug. 17: What you need to know

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think he/she/alphabet will be the one in the black mask?
     
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    You are correct... I tend to mix up my usage of White Nationalism and RW Facism.... They are 2 related, yet separate, concepts...

    When speaking of Proud Boys, I will stick with RW Facists... as it seems the phrase "White Nationalism" upsets so many...
     
  3. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    How would I know? I don't even know any of them. However, in this case, I could only guess they are upset at the City of Portland power structure in which the mayor has sided with a domestic terrorist group in an effort to suppress citizens Constitutional right to dissent. The mayor has decided to deprive Joey Gibson of his freedom for daring to get pepper sprayed by Antifa, or at least it looks that way. I will repost the video and you can see for yourself:

    https://expo.oregonlive.com/news/g6...w-of-the-brawl-at-cider-riot-take-a-look.html

    Joey Gibson's tape is the seventh one from the top. If you see anything that resembles an assault by Joey Gibson upon the Antifa crowd then the Mayor of Portland has a point, but if you do not see an assault, (with the obvious unprovoked assault by Antifa on Joey Gibson) then you are witnessing an act of tyranny by the mayor of Portland. Would you be willing to tolerate an act of tyranny if it was perpetuated by those you share political views with? No, I don't think you are that type of person. I believe you have honor and integrity. I guess the question should be, why aren't you pissed about this?
     
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    Mayor said he will call out the National Guard if right wingers cause trouble.

    Huh? lol
     
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    Probably this, just as any civilized people would be. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=885144255218387
     
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    I've heard those puzzy hats throw some serious shade... :giggle:
     
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    Only when they be a size twenty
     
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    I've noticed that also. And it seems you're also not aware of Leftist fascism.
    They may be upset at your lack of knowledge on the subject given that you're referring to non Whites as White Nationalists while overlooking the group which is 100% White and actually believing (or so you claim) they're anti Fascist..
     
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    Domestic terrorist group? Who, Antifa? You're not serious, are you? After what happened in El Paso, and what the FBI has been saying about the dangers of white supremacist terrorism, you're worried about Antifa?
     
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    The person responsible has been arrested and you're still worried about him? Get help.
     
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    Here’s what I know, no matter how violent and anti free speech antifa gets, Chris Cuomo will be there to defend and justify their violence. Don’t doubt me, he’s done it before.
     
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    Yeah but they smell like tuna.
     
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    "Oregon law states that a person can be charged with the crime of riot “if while participating with five or more other persons the person engages in tumultuous and violent conduct and thereby intentionally or recklessly creates a grave risk of causing public alarm.”

    So, maybe the Right guys should just stand together roped off from everyone else but with cameras and drones overhead. They wait to be attacked. As the Antifa pukes approach, they unmask them. Half their guys then take photos and make videos. Anyone who get touched by the Antifa terrorists gets their asses kicked by the other half of Right guys.

    I'm sure Oregon also has laws related to self defense too.
     
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    This is Google's definition of a terrorist:
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=ter...1.69i57j0l5.5303j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Could you tell me how Antifa does not fit the definition of a terrorist group? Do they use unlawful violence? Absolutely. Do they use violence against civilians? Absolutely. Do they use violence in pursuit of political aims? Absolutely. So how are they not terrorists? I am not saying the Proud Boys are not terrorists, as well, mind you. But Antifa uses violence and threats of violence in pursuit of political aims. I am not even sure how that can be disputed.
     
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    Conclusion:

    By the "Google Definition" America has an Incredibly Serious "Domestic Terrorism" Problem.

    This Rise of "Domestic Terrorism" (Obviously) has a Direct Correlation to the "Age of Trump"..
     
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    George Soros and the DNC are funding them.
     
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    BLM was spawned by Obama, he is responsible for the Dallas, BLM murderer of 5 officers right? Or is that 'different'?
     
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    Webster is a little more nuanced:

    Definition of terrorist
    (Entry 1 of 2)

    : an advocate or practitioner of terrorism as a means of coercion

    Definition of terrorist (Entry 2 of 2)

    : or, relating to, or characteristic of terrorists or terrorism : practicing or involving violent acts of terror

    OK, so what's terrorism, then?

    Definition of terrorism

    : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

    Neither Proud Boys nor Antifa are terrorists. They're don't do anything systematically, and nobody's terrified of them. We both lived through 9/11 and saw what real terrorists can do. To lump Antifa into that category is ridiculous. It's like AOC calling ICE detention centers "concentration camps". There might be some truth to that, in a very narrow sense, but when people hear "concentration camp" they don't think "ICE Detention Center", and when people hear "terrorist" they don't think Antifa or Proud Boys. Or at least, they shouldn't think that, because both groups are laughably bad at inspiring terror in people. Neither of them have even killed anyone. Even accidentally! It's like calling soccer hooligans "terrorists". Antifa and Proud Boys are young men who want to get in fights. The politics is just an excuse to rumble.

    That is not the case with real terrorists, who are willing to blow themselves up to take you out. THAT is scary. I still game out Islamic terrorist scenarios when I get on a plane. I suppose I'll be doing that the rest of my life.

    White nationalists are what we really need to be on guard against. Constantly. White nationalists have killed more Americans than any other group. It's not even close.
     
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    It will happen soon but first some Antifa guy has kill someone in a rampage, riot, protest, etc. The Dayton Antifia supporting shooter fits that definition but until anyone has the balls to call what he did a hate crime it won't happen. So far, they won't even say he had a motive. They don't bother to look at his social media rants but any manifesto's corroborated or not like the El Paso rampage will automatically qualify the shooter and the incident as hate related domestic terrorism.
     
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    They don't want it to. It would end if police were not stopped from doing their jobs.

    They just want attention it makes their female penises hard when you call them terrorists. They are pansies too afraid to leave Portland. Fighting fascism in the liberal city of Portland. Meanwhile there are places like Chattanooga Tennessee that are on the top most conservative cities in the United States.

    I think what the politicians are up to, is if Portland is seen as the antifa City nobody will pay attention to all of its other problems. Look at San Francisco. It's known as the empire of feces.
     
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    That's what they want. Nobody acts like an insufferable ass so as not to be seen as an insufferable ass. IDK maybe they don't realize how much America hates them. Maybe they believe their crap.
     
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    I, for one, am rooting for mutual destruction.

    Throw the Antifa asshats and the Proud Boy jerkoffs into the Thunderdome. Whoever leaves the Thunderdome wins a cupcake, and then they're thrown into a woodchipper.

    And the world is a better place.
     
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    I'll agree with you there. Right-wing kooks are a bigger threat than their left-wing counterparts.

    Because right wingers are competent with firearms, and at least capable and determined enough in their lunacy to hatch schemes, and execute nefarious plans.

    Antifa, on the other hand, are a bunch of craven speds who LARP at revolutionary by putting on silly masks and kicking over trash cans and breaking the windows out of the Starbucks where they buy coffee 7 days a week. The worst they're capable of is a noodle-armed sucker punch, followed by a hasty and cowardly retreat.

    The left-wing nutbar is by nature a harmless and ineffectual creature.

    The right-wing kook, yeah, they can be dangerous. You need to keep an eye on those problem children.
     
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