Alleged Philly cop shooter’s long rap sheet includes illegal possession of firearms

per the Constitution, rights can be taken away by due process. If we can take somebody's life (which is the basic right), we can take away any right. The key is due process, which means an individual courtroom case, not a law.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

You betcha. The NRA has twisted in its philosophy from an association of rifle enthusiasts to a hardcore gun trade association dedicated to make money for its corporatist sponsors

 

Show one instance of them advocating for a violent felon with prior gun charges, to be able to have a gun. Just ONE...go ahead, I'll wait....and wait..

 

Making money is legal. Focus on criminals and you'll look smarter.

 

It is evident that you have never read the Missouri State Constitution.

Text of Section 23:
Right to Keep and Bear Arms--Exception

That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms, ammunition, and accessories typical to the normal function of such arms, in defense of his home, person, family and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned. The rights guaranteed by this section shall be unalienable. Any restriction on these rights shall be subject to strict scrutiny and the state of Missouri shall be obligated to uphold these rights and shall under no circumstances decline to protect against their infringement. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent the general assembly from enacting general laws which limit the rights of convicted violent felons or those duly adjudged mentally infirm by a court of competent jurisdiction.
https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Missouri_Constitution

Notice that it does not say a damn thing about owning a gun as a privilege. It plainly says in American English that it is every citizen's right to own guns, ammunition, and accessories without question except for specific cases.

 

@JakeStarkey

Still waiting....

 

The various States have ignored those amendments on a continuos basis since they were written.

 

yes, during sentancing a right can be taken away, not after one has done their time and payed their debt to society - you want to punish them longer, then sentance them longer... simple

do you support taking ones free speach and religious rights away? so a person could not be a Christian if they had a mental issue, ect...

when you have to have the privalage to have a right, they are no longer rights, they are privalages

 

obviously you did not understand my post, try again

if you support taking free peoples rights to own a gun or vote away then they are not rights, they are privalages..I think they are rights and should not be treated as privalages - you are free to disagree though

what's next, we take free speech and religious freedom away from some free Americans too

the federal constitution trumps state constitutions

 

Oh, yes, but the NRA completely supports terrorists who are barred from flying airplanes to be able to buy enough high powered, automatic guns and ammunition to outfit small countries.

 

Thanks for the new and best version of anti-drug propaganda since Reefer Madness! Lol

What a load of nutcase propaganda!

 

Its so amazing to here Righties talk about the collapse of California, a place that is supposedly leaving as fast as possible from its Hell!

Yet people are fighting as fast as possible to buy million-dollar 2 bedroom houses and $2000 bedroom apartments with so much demand that vacancy rates of under 3%!

Yeah, NO ONE wants to live there!

 

You got evidence that it supports terrorist?

 

But gun control is working so well in the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/26/surge-in-knife-offences-fuels-rise-in-violent

 

Then so must the right to a fair and speedy trial, the right to be free of warrantless searches, the right to peaceful assembly etc. In fact the constitution is therefore not a bill of rights, more of a set of guidelines that can be manipulated to suit the powers that be.

 

Supporting due process before a right is removed is exactly what everyone should agree with and if not, well that is unconstitutional and very anti-American ideals. People that don’t belong on the list end up on the list, including a US senator and a US representative(Ted Kennedy, John Lewis ). Cat Stevens, and many others that aren’t famous as well. None of them really have much recourse to get off the thing(although it was easier for the senator and representative as they are in the government) either. You don’t get a hearing. You most likely won’t know you’re on it, and if you do submit the paperwork and they decide to remove you from the list(again with no hearing, they just get to decide on their own) you won’t even know until you try to fly again. The US government doesn’t have to tell you crap about it either. Very sickening, honestly.

 

yep, you get it now, all rights need to be treated as rights, when we start treating some rights as privalages it weakens all our rights

the right to own guns and vote should be absolute for all free Americans

 

There some old and new research that is finally being made public about marijuana.

Some touch on millennials and mass shootings. Almost all of the millennial mass shooters had something in common, they smoked the weed and started at an early age.

Most are about schizophrenia from marijuana use.
But it they found something interesting, those who started smoking "Mary Jane" before reaching the age of 18 were more than twice as likely to be schizophrenic.

It seems when you are still a teenager your brain housing group isn't fully operating and in fact is still in the building process.

FYI
You are aware that "Reefer Madness" has been modernized and brought up to date ?

 

Has there been any studies correlating alcohol use to schizophrenia, or video games, or social media use?
As it was once said "statistics can prove anything, sometimes even the truth"

 

Alcohol = schizophrenia ?

Alcohol use doesn't lead to schizophrenia but alcohol and schizophrenia don't mix.

Re: video games
The U.S. Army did some research on why those who play video games in particular violent video games are numb when it comes to taking a life. Until they are in the Army and find themselves on the battlefield and actually do take a life and come down with a real bad case of PTSD.

There are other factors why today's soldiers have such a high rate if PTSD compared to the Vietnam combat vet, Korean war vet and the WW ll vet. What was different from today's combat vet and the Vietnam combat vet ?

What was different from the Vietnam combat vet to the Korean war and WW ll vet ?

It seems that the WWll and Korean war vets had time to decompress before coming home on a slow moving troop ship.

The Vietnam War vet were the first soldiers to go to and from war on a commercial Boeing 707. No time to decompress.

Today a soldier can be home in the CONUS and in 24 hours find themselves in some shithole country like Afghanistan or Iraq.

 

Agreed. Gun laws and drug laws both fail for precisely the same reasons. A 'war' on either is bad for society.

 

No.

 

Haven't seen any solutions from you either. Laws don't prevent anything do they?

 

I have given plenty of options.

 

The symptoms of schizophrenia are the same for alcoholism.
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/schizophrenia/index.shtml