How do you think a military draft would work now?

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How do you think a military draft would work now?

  1. Women and LGBT would be drafted along with men.

    14 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Only men will be drafted (equality isn't important relative to victory)

    4 vote(s)
    19.0%
  3. There will not be a draft- we'll be defeated before we force women and LGBT into combat.

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that women and LGBT can 'go combat' in the US Armed Forces, what would a draft look like?

    (Assume its 'total WW3' and our nations very survival is on the line).

    Depending on your answer- include how you think 'self-identity' would play into draft dodging ('Im really a woman', or 'Im gay'- how to determine draft elligibility?)
     
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  2. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We will ultimately have to take everyone.

    Watch for Compulsory Service (of some type) in the future.
     
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    I can't imagine that we could pull off a draft today. The courts would immediately declare it unconstitutional and place a hold on it. Antifa would firebomb recruiting offices. Meanwhile the Independence Day ships are blasting city after city, the Military would have to stand down for a safety briefing and sexual harassment class.

    Let's face it, if the the survival of the country ever depended on a draft, we're sunk.
     
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    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

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    Modern war probably doesn't allow time for calling up untrained masses and trying to bring them up to combat status.
     
  5. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Contemplate.

    An Ender's Game scenario.

    Conscripts fighting via drone avatars.
     
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    Look around you, especially if you live in California.

    80% of those of military age couldn't even pass an entry level Army PFT.

    America is no longer a nation of citizen soldiers.

    With the changing demographics in America we are no longer a nation of warriors.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, there are warriors. 10300507_10204224574882993_7325582587211333907_n.jpg
     
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    That would be a great thing.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure would be something to see.

    Hoping of course, it wouldn't get all Nuremberg-ie, but more like our past C.C.C. Program.
     
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    Everyone gets treated exactly the same.
    To hell with all the PC crap. They can have that back when there service is over.
    Penis= he
    Vagina= she
    The military has no time to deal with that crap. Same for any non military service.
    You'd be there to learn to work and be an asset to society not be coddled in your fantasy of being something your not.
     
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    Crownline Banned at Members Request

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    WTF would the latrine SOP be?
    1, men that identify as men.
    2, men that identify as women.
    3 men that don’t identify.
    4, women that identify as women.
    5, women that identify as men.
    6, women that don’t identify.

    Six freaking latrines?
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Couldn't agree more.

    ( ? )
     
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    Nope 2 penis and vagina

    That way the ladies don't have to sit in some "girl's " pee whe she does it standing up.
     
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    Oh to harken back to the days of yore.
     
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    Back when things were done right
     
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    Ah yes, the days when the wealthy could pay to have someone go in their place or claim bone spurs. When blacks knew their place and gay people hid in closets for fear of their lives.

    MAGA
     
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    How about none of the above

    There will be no draft unless and until there is a real threat to the homeland that needs to be fought with a large army..... ie invasion of California by china

    There will be no draft to fight iran, or venezuela, or cuba.... or to invade greenland.

    The fact is that large tank wars are mostly obsolete
    Wars fought Fighters and bombers will soon be obsolete
    The wars of the future will be fought economically, digitally, with drones and missles,
     
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    Stay the hell out of foreign entanglements like Washington demanded and there would be no need for a draft or a military.
     
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    Quite honestly - and I'm not trying to dodge the question - I cannot conceive of a scenario in the modern age where we would have to bring back conscription.

    It's not the 1940s anymore. Wars in the modern age are not won by force of numbers of ground troops. They are won by air power, which includes bombing by aircraft, guided missiles, and even "smart" artillery. Troops clean up pockets of resistance behind and in conjunction with air power.

    Just as an example ... If Russia decided to invade western Europe, and the war didn't go nuclear, the real battle would be over air superiority. If we won air supremacy, their tanks and troop concentrations would be little more than target practice, and they would lose the war quickly.

    Times have changed, and I am against re-instituting the draft.

    And if ever some invading army were able to invade us, they would have an armed populace to contend with.
     
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    We're a big target with lots of enemies. Sometimes we have to put our chess pieces into play less we're out-maneuvered. But stupid moves, yes those should be avoided.
     
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    How would you like to be pushing drafted boots?
     
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    It's be especially bitchy using them as code monkeys for drone fleets
     
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    Trump supporters would just claim their bone spurs hurt
     
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    I gather the draft in the US is still men only and though there have been legal challenges, there is little pressure to change things because it is unlikely to be imminently necessary and there would be political fall-out from either solution (extending the draft to women or eliminating it entirely). In theory sexual orientation isn’t an issue and transgender is such a small proportion that it probably could be managed reasonably (not that it necessarily would). You’d probably get a lot more calls for exceptions these days – on medical grounds, conscientious objection and wider political objections to whatever conflict it was.

    It does seem highly unlikely that the US would ever need a vast mobilisation of civilians in to the military given the nature of modern warfare though. Even with a large-scale multiple-front conflict, the focus would be highly-trained professionals using technology over the traditional “throw more bodies at the enemy than they throw at us”.

    Even the concept of “World War 3” doesn’t really make sense in context. WW1 and WW2 were events of their time, the outcome of centuries of internal conflict in Europe (and the Far East) and the main reason they became nominally worldwide was the remnants of the various empires dragging Africa, the Middle East and the Americas in to the conflicts. That environment simply doesn’t exist anymore and so the nature of any major conflict isn’t going to automatically draw in much of the world and isn’t going to involve expansive land wars across multiple continents.
     
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    Do you have any idea how many out-of-shape Americans would end up getting drafted? A lot.
     
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