I think Jews are closer to the truth on reincarnation than we Christians are.

The evidence that seems to point to reincarnation is also evidence for the resurrection of the dead.... .which is the number one doctrine in both Judaism as well as Christianity but...... I admit that this is complicated because that same evidence could be presented as being evidence....... .for the power of Satan and demons to masquerade as deceased humans.............. If you invest time in looking at the Dr. Ian Stevenson research and the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research.... you could well be left with a whole bunch of questions as to how various scriptures in both the Jewish and Christian Bible should be understood.

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus told Christians to "agree with our adversary"...... (I assume that he mean that when our perceived adversaries could well be correct)..... .then we should admit that they could be correct. It seems to me that if we Christians were wise.... we would not so casually throw away evidence....... not proof but at least evidence........... for the resurrection of the dead and / or the existence of a powerful fallen angel and an army of fallen angels with him who may have really muddied the water????!

I am a Christian who since 1992 has faced a huge amount of evidence from various sources that the Jewish scholars could well be much closer to the truth on the idea of the human soul or over soul....... reincarnating somehow??????





What Judaism Says About Reincarnation
Though some Jewish thinkers vigorously rejected the notion of reincarnation, kabbalists embraced it enthusiastically.

 

My apologies but I've been trying my best to research this since 1992 and there is no substitute for putting in a lot of time on this.... .......... ...... this could be the topic that brings Christians and Jews much closer together........ if we Christians can admit to the partial truth in what Jews teach on the powerful case from scripture that can be presented for reincarnation..... of at least part of the human soul and / or oversoul...... which would be quite different than for YOU to reincarnate............ You will live forever in paradise or a negative Life Review that is TIMELESS............ but your over soul that existed even before you were conceived has capabilities different from what your soul or human spirit can do?????
I went through serious cognitive dissonance with all this........ I think I can make it a little easier for you...... but you will still face some confusing information.



3. Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons

 

I also believe in reincarnation, I believe our bodies are just vessels we travel in during this lifetime

 

Around 1989 or 1990 I ran into evidence that the Soul Sleep theory that I had been
taught by Pastor General Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong
was obviously an error that was based on a rather small number of scriptures that we had
seriously misunderstood.

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/george-ritchie.html#a05c

The first evidence for reincarnation that I ran into about two years later was the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research.

What she did I must admit does muddy the water ......... and many Christians will
take her research as indicative of the existence of a Lucifer and a third of the angels being
"fallen" into rebellion against G-d!

But....... if her research practically proves the existence of a fallen angel and
an army of fallen angels...... should we Christians be so lethargic intellectually that we
casually throw away such research just because it may force us to at least become
open minded to the idea that perhaps Jewish scholars and mystics may be closer to the
full truth on the afterlife than our mentors and teachers were???????


http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

 

I totally agree now....... but wow, this was challenging for me back in the early '90's!

I'm glad that I didn't read the Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. near death experience first.......
because I am pretty sure that I could not have handled it until I finally found it in 2012!

Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?

IF... it is true that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus really taught things like Dr. Bruce MacDonald was shown during his near death experience and later meditations THEN... .this means that the teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus were actually very similar to the teachings of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov or..... . modern near death experience Rabbi Alon Anava.......... This sets the stage for Christian Mystics and Jewish scholars to take a significant step toward each other.

 

Dennis, might I suggest that when you present your interesting mental imaginings you at least avoid using things already shown to be false?
"Dr. Wambach found that a certain number of people she hypnotized actually saw into future lives. What they saw concerned her--a devastated and depopulated world. So in the early 1980s, Dr. Wambach decided again to apply systematic methods. She did a huge study that involved over 2,500 people undergoing hypnoticfuture life progression.

The future life progressions were conducted over a number of years and several groups were involved in the study. Wambach offered the participants a choice of five time periods (three in the past and two in the future) with instructions that their subconscious minds would choose one of the periods. Of the 2,500 people in the study, six percent reported being alive in 2100 AD, and 13 percent said they were alive in the 2300 AD period. Only a handful of the subjects progressed to the future. (My guess that hypnotic progression into the future is just a lot harder than into the past! C.M.)

There was evidence, she believed, that there was a decline of up to 95 percent of the population within a few generations. Concerned, Wambach asked one of her students to progress to a specific date in the late 1990s but had to bring the woman out of hypnotic trance rapidly after the woman found herself "choking to death on a big, black cloud". Wambach found predictions for the last years of the century to include severe earthquakes, a new US currency, severe weather patterns, financial crises, bank failures, an increase in volcanic activity and the decimation of a large number of people. In 1999, there would be an isolated incident in which a nuclear explosion in Europe kills many people.

Wambach was working with Dr. Chet Snow who, after her death, published Mass Dreams of the Future. It contains the results of many such in depth future life progressions, presented in perhaps a more sensationalistic way than Dr. Wambach would have presented it. On the internet, Wambach today is most quoted by those interested in these future lives than in past lives."

As a general rule it is important when attempting to be taken seriously, to avoid saying stupid things or making yourself seem crazy...purposefully or not.

 

I do not even think time is the linear in reincarnation, you could be reborn 50, 100 years in the past or the future

this is odd to think about cause many of the people around you could actually be you living other lifetimes

 

I doubt that reincarnation would allow for multiple versions of self...but who the heII knows.

 

The word "FALSE" is a word and you and I are capable of accepting somewhat different definitions of the word FALSE
based on other information that you and I have received over the course of our lives.

I admit that I am biased.... .and I do prefer to not think that my travelling to Prince Edward Island back in 1979 to
observe a Messianic Gentile Festival of Tabernacles / Sukkot...... was a waste of my precious time?!


Could the prophet Elijah have altered history if he had NOT........

Now you can better understand why I am so impressed with near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava......


Could Rabbi Alon Anava be more like Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus than any Christian on earth?

 

Actually Dennis...some things are just untrue...case in point:
"she believed, that there was a decline of up to 95 percent of the population within a few generations. Concerned, Wambach asked one of her students to progress to a specific date in the late 1990s but had to bring the woman out of hypnotic trance rapidly after the woman found herself "choking to death on a big, black cloud". Wambach found predictions for the last years of the century to include severe earthquakes, a new US currency, severe weather patterns, financial crises, bank failures, an increase in volcanic activity and the decimation of a large number of people. In 1999, there would be an isolated incident in which a nuclear explosion in Europe kills many people"

None of this occurred so these "Predictions" are false.

 

One near death experiencer stated that the Seven Spirits of G-d the Elohim.......
are actually Twin Souls...... fourteen individuals .... Seven male and female pairs........ and that one hundred percent of humans..... (or awfully close to one hundred percent of humans anyway)..... have within them an over soul that is actually one of these fourteen Elohim!

The implications of this are kind of scary....... because it fits with the statements by near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley that we humans....... are powerful spiritual beings........ and we have much more power to alter the future in potential branches of non-lineaer time..... than we might wish to imagine............ because the RESPONSIBILITY that comes along with POWER..... is kind of scary....... if we are used to blaming all of our problems on G-d and / or The Devil?!

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

…….Neat......

 

No... these could have already occurred in a very real example of applied Multiverse Theory........
applied by HaShem / G-d...... that may be all too real.... but you and I may be here working out a very, very, very different reality this time around...... (and by the way your off the scale brilliant humour is a spectacular addition to these discussions)......... The humour of Tecoyah is the next best thing to my quotations from AboveAlpha....... because man but that guy was one phenomenal writer and thinker!!!!

Chapter five of Dannion Brinkley's book Saved By the Light could turn out to be replicable...... anecdotal evidence for non-linear time / applied Multiverse Theory, (applied by G-d)???????

I hope a GOD exists but I am not holding my breath!

Here is kind of a neat quotation from near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.

Yes.. ... the evidence indicates that we can be Jewish in one lifetime and appear to be Gentiles in another possible lifetime.

 

Granted that if we decide to play multiverse theory then any and everything is not only possible but inevitable.

 

It really is amazing..........
a case can be presented that the fear of Responsibility and the Power that goes along with it........
was a major dividing issue between Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and the Scribes and Pharisees. (I assume because the
Scribes and Pharisees preferred to blame either G-d or The Sitra Achra rather themselves........
or the former previous possible reincarnations of themselves from the past.......

 

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once we allow for the possibility of applied Multiverse Theory then we have set the stage for a quite possible time line in which...... several of the disciples of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus come up with an attempt to save him from his philosophical rivals........ (To be more specific.... Cephas - Peter, Joseph of Arimathaea, Judas Didymus Thomas, (Doubting Thomas) and a cousin of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus named Saul of Nazareth who could resemble Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus at least in the dark, (who should not be confused with Saul of Tarsus)).

and the failure that works out in that other time line.... .could be very different than how that plan may fail..... (or perhaps even succeed)..... in another time line.....

Now you can better understand my statement over here.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ination-for-nobel-prize-in-literature.542590/

http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

 

This has now devolved beyond mental masturbation into the BSC (Bat Shiat Crazy) category.....My only useful response would be one of the genius humor replies you are fond of.

 

I hate to depress you but if there is a multiverse You might be in Dennis's shoes and he in yours. Mmm

 

Actually that forms one of the only true paradox situations of infinity theory as my imagination prevents certain possibility from occurring in all conceivable and impossible universe scenarios including those wherein paradox transpires which instantaneously eliminates the paradox, paradox. Should Dennis and I reverse or trade dimensional energies the resulting implosion of space-time would instigate a new Big Bang singularity event which would then erase the one being discussed rendering this entire hypothetical null and forgotten. The fact you can read and review this conversation would indicate said paradoxal paradox did not occur and thus negate any possibility of a DennisTate/Tecoyah mutuality.

 

Yes........... I do believe that the original linear time line from Adam to Abraham to Moses to King David to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and down to the first time line in our generation....... on one level.... will be the example of Worst Possible Case Scenario and all new time lines .... that also may be an example of applied Ezekiel chapter thirty seven combined with something like Multiverse Theory as applied by G-d / HaShem ........ will be better and better and better in the sense that more of the Holy Spirit will be poured out in each new time line.

Near death experiencer Christian Andreason did a brilliant job of elaborating on this in chapter 5 of his book......... I personally am unqualified to rule out any assertion that he makes about what he was shown during his near death experience.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

The Long Hallway
........

All of this is one of the only really, really good answers that I have ran into that could address
issues like racism?


What is that white guy doin in my head? (Past life regression under hypnosis).

 

Er. Could you repeat that please.

 

A buddy of mine from England visited a few months ago........
He accurately terms himself a "Shaman" and I am certain that if he didn't have fifty more
IQ points to work with than I do....... then he must had a hundred.........

because I have to admit that I had a terrible time comprehending much of what he said......

While he was here I smoked a lot of cigarettes..... (which assisted me to remain calm and contemplative as opposed to cranky and self-righteous)........

He would explain these Paradoxes to me.... .that left almost as bewildered as the dog and cat were!!!!?????

He will get a laugh out of this though....... Awesome humorous reply brother!!!!

 

Probably not...it hurts my head.

 

Allow me to explain paradox to you:

I always tell the Truth....I am lying.

 

That is a good one...... we humans cannot tell one hundred percent truth......
we always have one to five percent untruth minimum in the best that we can write or speak on any subject.......

I confuse the hell out of people by attempting to cover one side of a topic in one post... and then in a later post.....
I seem to contradict myself by covering another aspect of the same subject........

We humans cannot accurately make the statement "I always tell the Truth".......
we can say that we try to... .but that would mean that we qualify our statements and
contradict ourselves to a degree.... which I do attempt to do.......

and so do you.......