White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. dairyair

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    It most certainly is.
    Else no need for the word white at all when referring to Nationalism.
     
  2. AFM

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    How old are these people ?? What are their jobs ?? Where are these jobs ??
     
  3. Distraff

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    Saying that a country should be of a certain race and that other races are bad is white supremacy when I dig in and ask you the reasons for this belief.
     
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    Where did he say other races are bad ??
     
  5. Distraff

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    If the other races weren't bad then why does he want less minorities?
     
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    Where does he say that ???
     
  7. Polydectes

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    No it wasn't it was economic power in military might. Nobody gets stronger because there's a bunch of superficial differences between people.

    Further multiculturalism is a weakness. you can't believe that have multiculturalism and a solid state.
     
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    Yes it is a problem it's one of our current president in trying to deal with. But it's one some of the more vocal among us don't want to deal with. They pretend like it makes us stronger if that makes any kind of sense.
     
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    "America should be very white, meaning that the majority of her population, say 80%, should be white people."
     
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    That’s an opinion. It doesn’t say that other races are bad.
     
  11. Concord

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    A bit concerning that you're agreeing with Sobo, an open racist.

    Concerning, but not surprising.
     
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    There was a time in America that the Irish, Spanish, Italians, Greeks and Jews were not considered white. Nationalism is a pernicious idea.
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Everybody is a racist that isn't far left.
     
  14. Concord

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    Yeah, especially people that say "I'm a racist."

    I used the word "open" for a reason.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    What does that have to do with me?
     
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    Oh I just think it's concerning that your views align so closely with open racists like Sobo, that's all.

    You really think Trump is "solving" the "problem" of El Paso being majority Hispanic? How's he doing that?
     
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    Why?

    He's trying. He is being obstructed by democrats.
     
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    Well, knowing how disingenuous right-leaning people can be, it makes me wonder how close to Sobo people like you are.

    You see, I actually like Sobo, because he's not cowardly about his beliefs. American right-wingers, on the other hand, bury themselves in mountains of disingenuous rhetoric. That's how you can say you're not a racist while calling the fact that El Paso is majority Hispanic a "problem."

    Guess what, we could stop all immigration, legal or illegal, from Latin America and El Paso will be majority Hispanic for as long as either you or I will live. In fact, the entire American Southwest will be. So, as long as you see that as a "problem" to be "solved," you can't just be talking about ending illegal or even legal immigration. You have to be talking about something else, and whatever "solution" you come up with will be indistinguishable from any kind of solution an actual white nationalist could come up with.

    You didn't answer the question, man. How's he "solving" that "problem?"
     
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    Do your own research I'm not your lab assistant.
     
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    I have. So you don't actually know what you are talking about. That's what I figured.
     
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    People like me? Hey I'm closer to you than I am any German.

    Hispanic isn't a race.

    That isn't disturbing that a foreign culture is diluting the greatest culture?



    Again he's trying.
     
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    Ah so he didn't actually say "breeding infestation" as you claimed, even putting it in quotation marks. He used infested in relation to crime, "crime infested."

    Thanks for finally coming clean on that.
     
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    we went from racist to nationalist to white nationalist to white supremist... with nazis interspersed... liberals perverting the language!
     
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    Oh sure, probably in more ways than you think.

    But in that you're right-leaning, you are obviously closer to Sobo than you are to me politically. And that's a problem.

    You and I are from different parts of the Southwest, but we probably share a great deal of cultural baggage. It's likely, for example, that both our families are Southern Baptist, or that our families came to Texas from elsewhere in the south. In fact, I'd venture a guess that you and I probably even have similar personal proclivities and attitudes.

    I'll submit that "racist" is just a handy-catch-all. I don't really care either. If I feel like typing I'll use the terms "racist and xenophobic" to fully capture the group.

    I'm from the American southwest, and even among working class whites like myself derision towards Hispanics can fairly be called "racism" without anybody batting an eye. But then, most people in my circles are perfectly comfortable being called "racist" if they're among other working-class whites.

    Let's leave aside the characterization of our culture as "the greatest" or Hispanic culture as "foreign." Is it problematic that the demographics of our region have changed so much so quickly? It absolutely is. It's just that I want to offer actual solutions to this problem, which differs both from the liberal attitude of pretending there isn't a problem, and the much more troublesome attitude held by people like you that derision or hostility towards this other culture is somehow going to help.

    If the Southwest goes up in flames, and it might, it's going to be because our people failed to integrate peacefully with another people who, when it really comes down to it, are much like our own.

    I've been saying it for a while: When Texas goes blue in a Presidential election my community is going to react very, very poorly, with potentially catastrophic results. I firmly believe that this is the most important political story happening on our planet. You and I are at ground zero for the most important story this century, and I implore you to take a different tac than you are.

    How? What could he possibly do?
     
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    Its ok, im starting my own group . I will call it antiwhisup.
     

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