social security end if republicans win in 2020 ?

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by qmuddy2, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    2,814
    Likes Received:
    3,091
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I edited the post but you were faster. Okay to use the stock market as the basis for return?
     
  2. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    10,833
    Likes Received:
    4,092
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Republicans will likely raise the retirement age and reduce benefits by 10-20%. They won't end the program.
     
  3. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    3,796
    Likes Received:
    2,342
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No. You would not have picked winners every time.
     
  4. therooster

    therooster Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    13,004
    Likes Received:
    5,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure if you like open borders and hate.
     
    ArchStanton and roorooroo like this.
  5. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    2,814
    Likes Received:
    3,091
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Winners and losers would have averaged out to the average net gain over the years.

    Here is one person's calculation:

    https://steemit.com/money/@swenger/...ocial-security-i-invested-in-the-stock-market

    Interesting indeed.

    Since there are so many who get way more than they ever paid, and some getting SS for life who have never paid, it only follows that someone like me who has always paid will get screwed in the end.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019
  6. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    7,503
    Likes Received:
    2,227
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, social democrats dislike the elderly and infants, those that are unable to work and those that cannot function well in society. Republicans believe in 401ks and investment planning for retirement.

    It's more likely the dems will reduce payments due to restructuring to cover more folks.

    It's more likely the reps will reduce payments due to folks receiving payments from personal investment plans.

    Either way, if you are on ss only, it's going to be a tough ride.
     
  7. Migrunt

    Migrunt Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2019
    Messages:
    1,125
    Likes Received:
    382
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Democrats believe Social Security and Medicare is their money to do with as they wish.
     
  8. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The dems are no more for open borders than the GOP, and the GOP seems to hate far more than everyone else.
     
  9. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Republicans dislike the elderly and infants, those that are unable to work and those that cannot function well in society.
     
  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,288
    Likes Received:
    48,690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Bet you can prove that like you 'proved' the NRA wants guns in the hands of violent felons.
     
  11. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,717
    Likes Received:
    19,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Only if they want the R party to no longer exist.
     
    FlamingLib likes this.
  12. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    9,515
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please, keep saying stuff like this:above::above::above:
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019
  13. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The NRA does not support good laws to keep the guns out of violent felons, yep.
     
  14. ArchStanton

    ArchStanton Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2018
    Messages:
    3,230
    Likes Received:
    4,052
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :roflol: Democrats are for post-birth abortion and death panels for old folks. Find something else to spin. Your party owns it.
     
    Chester_Murphy likes this.
  15. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Republicans will end Social Security if elected in the next term.

    Old folks panels were started by GWB and pushed by Michele Bachman.

    Vote for the Dems if you wish to keep your social security.
     
  16. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,825
    Likes Received:
    32,495
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Only one party is against public assistance and frequently call an insurance that you have likely paid into your entire life, welfare. That would be republicans. If anyone is going to remove or defund it, it will be them.

    Vote accordingly
     
    FlamingLib and JakeStarkey like this.
  17. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    7,503
    Likes Received:
    2,227
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That was in the House bill for healthcare in 2009, introduced by Nancy Pelosi. Remember her telling the public we would know what was in it when it passed into law?
     
  18. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,288
    Likes Received:
    48,690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    A pack of lies. O care started death panels. So why did Trump not end it with full control of all houses? You must think you are talking to gullible children.

    Watch, I can do the same thing...Democrats want to give all of our SS to illegal aliens for their votes.
     
    ArchStanton and roorooroo like this.
  19. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The lies are the the GOP will not end Social Security it they can, mangle it (like ACA) if they can't.

    The old folks were indeed started by GWB.

    Educated voters can tell when the far right goe nutty.
     
  20. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    2,814
    Likes Received:
    3,091
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The real fear with social security is that the democrats will place a wealth qualifier on receiving benefits - if a person has a decent 401 and IRAs and perhaps some investments, they won't get anything even though they paid in, because they "already have enough anyway" (from each according to ability, to each according to need.)

    Regardless, I will not sell my vote to the dems for the mere pittance of a return I will get on what I paid in social security. If republicans do try to change it, they will make allowances for those who have paid in over the years.
     
  21. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    roo, baby, is talking about means testing, for the very wealthy, not everyone, and the changes will be for the lowest retirement incomes.

    The GOP will break SS if it can.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019
  22. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2015
    Messages:
    13,625
    Likes Received:
    11,934
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not a chance. Zero chance. Relax.
     
    FlamingLib likes this.
  23. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    2,814
    Likes Received:
    3,091
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    roo, baby? Good one.

    (Here is where I will tit-for-tat fear-monger like you and others often do with made-up crap) The dems will penalize anyone who has worked hard, been frugal, and made good decisions to amass a nest-egg. $300,000 net worth and social security benefits will be cut. $600,000 net worth and you get nothing. (of course both of us are lying)

    Nancy told me so.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019
  24. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The difference is that I am obviously suggesting a sensible plan while the GOP simply cannot.
     
  25. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,613
    Likes Received:
    11,200
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What's your "sensible plan" ?
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019

Share This Page