Israel bars Democratic congresswomen from entering country <<Moderator's Warning>>

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by Vote4Future, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. Nice attempt at deflection though! I guess you're struggling for evidence.
     
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    I agree with you but as in everything it depends on your point of view. They attracted a voting bloc that we don't understand and we have no idea how deep it runs. There is probably no turning back and it will continue to grow.
     
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    will the Muslims compensate all the Jews that they persecuted and kicked out after 1948?
     
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    would of been nice if Trump had not called them very fine people
     
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    Many fine people did protest the rewriting of history and attempts to remove Confederate monuments
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you made the claim I was wrong, so put up, I can't prove none exist, just do not know of any, but if some do, you can prove it right...

    I can prove some preachers molest children, so if you said they did not, I could prove you wrong... see how that works
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the people at that rally protesting the removal of the Confederate monuments dd not seem like fine people to me, that chanting, the killing and injuring people with a car...

    we should move them to a museum where they belong, not honor them on state house lawns or in the center of town

    when a statue if vandalized that is part of history too, should it not be erased

    the Confederates lost the war, their symbol should be the white flag of surrender
     
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    They gave Tlaib permission to go visit her grandmother; she declined. Which pretty much proves it wasn't about grandma; she wanted to make trouble. I wonder if there ever was a grandmother in the first place. Obviously, right or wrong in our minds, Israel has the right to make decisions about what is best for their country, and enforce those.
     
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    You only saw what you wanted to see

    I saw whites who were not neo nazis or KKK and even black people who want our history told correctly

    Here is the opinion of jesse lee pederson

    https://www.wnd.com/2017/08/im-black-and-i-support-confederate-monuments-100-percent/
     
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  10. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Why the hell would I say that some priests have NOT molested children?
     
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    So because we send them some money it means they are a welfare state? You do realize the importance they provide us with safety in the Middle East
     
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    Yes, what about their 'right of return'?
     
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    If we didn’t constantly stick our noses into the Middle East they would just blowing each other up instead of us. But no, I don’t — how does the billions we send to Israel protect us in any way shape or form?

    I am fine with being allies but not with sending them free money every year while their citizens enjoy no cost healthcare and education and ours do not.
    It’s a travesty
     
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    meanwhile oppression of women in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, UAE, Oman, Sudan, and other Muslim nations is ignored.
     
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    This is a matter of respect for our own highest institutions.
     
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    Koran = oppression. It is basically an Islamic version of Mein Kampf.
     
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    More on the group that was going to sponsor Omar and Tlaib:

    "A 2006 Miftah report dealing with the Second Intifada – a wave of Palestinian violence in the early 2000s – discussed a 2002 Jerusalem suicide bombing under a section titled “Fighting Back.” It described the attack, where Wafa Idrees blew herself up with a bomb that killed an Israeli and injured more than 100 others, as “the beginning of a string of Palestinian women dedicated to sacrificing their lives for the cause.”

    More recently, Miftah’s founder, Hanan Ashrawi, a member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization’s executive committee, spoke against referring to Palestinian attackers as terrorists in a 2017 interview.

    “They are seen by the people as resistance and you cannot somehow adopt the language of either the international community or the occupier by describing anybody who resists as a terrorist,” she told Germany’s DW.com, describing “this whole labeling thing” as “unfair and unjust.”

    Someone needs to ask these two kooks point blank if these Palestinian attackers are terrorists.
     
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  19. WillReadmore

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    Today Israel won't even allow citizens of Israel who are living in Israel to occupy the property they owned before they left due to the fear of the war.

    And, if you're thinking of "compensation", the request in the West Bank isn't for compensation - it's a request to be allowed to live on the property they own instead of having Israel steal their land. Getting your property back from those who stole it isn't "compensation".

    This is an ongoing atrocity, not a "compensation" issue.
     
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    I have a client whose father had 50 properties confiscated from him in Iran because he was Jewish.
     
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    This may not be true for all terrorism against Israel.

    But, Israel is at war against Gaza and is stealing the land of those Palestinians living in West Bank. Plus, Israel refuses to even talk about ending their war - with Netanyahu declaring there will never be a state of Palestine while he rules (crazy, since over 130 countries recognize Palestine and the UN accepts them as an observer state).

    When they fire rockets Israel wants to call it terrorism. When Israel steals their land and continues their war against Gaza they want to call it justice. Then, they use jet bombers against apartment buildings, water and electric infrastructure, hospitals and other infrastructure critical to survival. Then, they refuse building materials be allowed in.

    There is NO QUESTION that Israel is playing a ludicrous word game.
     
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    There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason for Palestinians to pack up and go anywhere.

    They are living on land that belongs to them. NOBODY has the right to steal their land.

    Over 130 countries recognize Palestine as a state. The UN accepted Palestine as an observer state.

    There is NO justification for allowing Israel to continue their humanitarian crime against these people.
     
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    The UN is a joke, nobody cares, they've had Libya and Iran on their Human Rights committee. That location on the East Side would make a great parking lot. And here are 10 points that debunk your myths: http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ten_facts

    Note Palestine was the name given to that land after the destruction and expulsion of the Jews in 70AD, where is their right of return?
     
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    And???

    How the heck does that justify some other crime?

    How would your client's father's loss POSSIBLY be a justification for the USA to help facilitate ethnic cleansing?
     
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    People can name their country anything they choose.

    What they choose doesnt conver rights of ANYTHING.

    What happened in 70AD??? 70AD??? Ar you SERIOUS???

    We don't even look back to our internment of West Coast citizens of Japanese ancestry - a major theft of property. We don't go back to the Trail of Tears.
    We don't go back to slavery.

    Now, YOU think we should consider the ethnic cleansing of Palestine as justified by something that happened in 70AD???

    I have NEVER heard such a stupid excuse for large scale criminal behavior.
     

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