Really? The protest has an issue for the state officials which goes from the citizens. So basically a protest attracts attention of the state to a problem and then it gets solved this or that way. But revolution is different. Revolutionaries don't want to solve the problems. They need the problems to fight against their own state. A revolutionary will always be backed from abroad, especially from the west and especially from the media. A revolutionary would demonize their state and try to provoke it for blood and deaths. Well. I don't see the protests in Hong Kong. I see a revolution attempt. Definetely. A typical color revolution like everywhere else.
Ok I get it I think the libs were not expecting hillary to lose The polling told them it would be a hillsry blowout and they believed it There is a video of the Young Turks on election night About 6 pm they are laughing and joking Then the results begin to come in and they are in shock Just like the libs at hillarys victory celebration that turned into a wake
It certainly let the air out of their tires. They believed all the polls and media propaganda. I think the old guard GOP was just as shocked though and neither party central core really understands what and why it happened.
Yup. The corporate democrats were stunned speechless atthe Trump victory. I was deeply saddened because I knew what a Trump presidency was going to be like but I always knew friends of mine who thought Trump could never win were whistling in the dark. I hoped it couldn't happen but I always knew it could. Just as an aside, on the night of the election I was watching the results at a small mixed gathering at a local club. As it became apparent that Trump was going to win a couple of guys at the back of the room started yelling at the black female CBC announcer on the TV, I'm paraphrasing here but it was something like "yeah, you can go back where you came from *********, things are going to be different now." A projection of things to come.......
I doubt it. I'm no fan of the Clintons but this is as bad as I'd ever imagined - even worse. I get it that you are a true believer but this is a very dangerous moment in human history. I think the heart of America will miss a beat when the ramifications of aTrump presidency really hit home and the people realize how badly they've been conned. Especially if he wins a second term - which is not out of the rhelm of possibility by any means.
What do you mean by 'success'? Would protesters turn communist state into a liberal democracy #2 MeToo? No. Would mr. Trump lay 2 choices at the table of communists where they need to either kill their own citizens and face a huge loss and financial crisis with everyone in the world blaming communists or spare some billions of USD (which is a pure robbery, but is truly much better than a civil war with the own population (young and educated)? I would say - yes.
How in the world does Trump fit into that mess? H K is Chinese and the unrest was triggered by the Chinese government. Trump is involved in a trade war with mainland China which has jack to do with the situation in HK.
This isn’t Portland were nihilists are waging gang warfare every Saturday in the park; this is Hong Kong, whose free citizens are telling China to honor their word, Autonomy for Hong Kong. This is Hong Kong: This is Portland:
CPC lately spent a fortune of money throughout the world improviing some infrastructure. People like it. It adds some reputation points. But with all the coming blood of those useful chinese protesters these investments will surely be lost. Trump is a good businessman. If it was a China 20-30 years ago he would earn a fortune without spending any extra money (the regular spending on the color revolutions over the world don't count - these are regular expenses). But unfortunately CPC won't be a chicken this time. They don't have any chance to make peace with the protesters. But they certainly are able to opress them. Trump won't correct the trade difference. And CPC will continue with their revenge all over the world. With this blood on hands they really have nothing to lose. The revolutionaries are doomed anyway. Try not to think that they are humans. It is sort of very disappointing. Think of themselves as if they are wooden pawns or paper cards in this game. They are doomed, because of their belief into democracy.
I just explained how he is connected to it. Trump is a businessman. He inherited an entire to set color revolution over the world. It is supported anyway by american taxpayers. And if the Department of State wishes he will be able to organize an event with a considerable number of protesters in any country for no reason - he will get them and hundreds of journalists will make a fuss of it throughout the globe. It was not Trump who invented it. He just needed extra argument for a trade war. His business arguments didn't lead to success. This is assymetric argument for a trade war. There is nothing chinese government can do. These protesters are not controlled by CPC. They are controlled by the Department of State. And today it says that they need die, painfully for the blood coming out of every TV screen. So they do obeying their masters... Don't blame the department of state. They just do their job, obeying orders... It's a choice of these young chinese anyway. This was their decision to end up their lives like that. Blame them. It will ease the coming picture of their inevitable death.
somehow you forgot this. how the police will handle protester if they shutdown O'Hare airport. or something like this.
I understand that I must be clear on who is a bad guy and why you are on a good side again... I just don't want to lie you... This is what real politics is... You think that it is impossible. That the guys in the Department of State are not able to invest into bribing provocators and gang leaders, a group of criminals who will close their face and attack ppolice provoking fire back... But these guys certainly use their media, their influence on social networks to coordinate people, to keep them in the streets in the time needed, to set up tears over the news etc. It's not that difficult to believe that the US doesn't waste the money of their taxpayers and invests it into political opportunities all over the world. Have you really believed that all those deep state officials are investing for decades into an idea of all-winning democracy which failed to win anywhere but in the US? No, really? Do you still believe that USAid helps russians and chinese people to learn the ideals or... how do you possibly imagine that?
Ok. You keep the faith, comrade. The party appreciates your self-sacrifice. Know any other fools...I mean willing slaves...Damn it....I mean any other sacrificial animals...wait...anybody else. The Party can always use new suckers... sht!...fresh meat....no...I mean faithful fools...Oh hell, to hell with it.
What is it that Trump and the US stand to gain from the unrest in Hong Kong? After the British lease ran out Hong Kong reverted back to China. At the time it was to their advantage to keep HK open and maintain ties with the West, it gave China a backdoor into trade agreements. China has obviously decided it is time to assert control and that is what has caused the protest movements. This is a Chinese problem and not an American one. China may try to claim America is behind their problem so that if and when they crack down they can claim it's Trump's fault. It is not.
Ah, you mistake thugs for idealists. Read more. Study more. Learn more. Become an independent mind. It all become clear, I assure you with the utmost confidence. When tyranny raise its ugly head, free men must slice it off at neck—like Perseus did the Gorgon. Makes Persues a rebel (against the gods), a protestor (defying the curse of Thetis), and a Hero (saving and fighting for that which he lived, Andromeda). His spirit lives with the Hong Kong rebels, and Xi Jinping is the Medusa. Off with China’s head.
China for the Chinese. The USA needs to keep its intrusive butt out of what goes on there. After all, China did not intervene in the USA when fascist police attacked innocents in Ferguson, San Diego, or NYC.
