Trump Says He Supports 'Intelligent' Background Checks

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Double down on what?

    If Trump passes red flag laws that undermine due process or he is involved in banning semi-autos, he will become a gun grabber imo and I will shift my vote to whoever is more likely to support gun rights.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What's twisted is the idea that being awash in a sea of death dealing devices isn't driving people to act on murderous impulses
     
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    America has always had a sea of guns

    But only since liberals changed the culture was mass murder a problem
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're fetishising guns. They're inanimate objects. They can't drive anyone to do anything...
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What changes are you referring to?
     
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    Speaking of driving, when wackos cant get a gun here or in europe they often find a car or truck instead and still kill people
     
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    It sounds, to me, as though he is throwing out another word salad that means absolutely nothing but thinks it will appease.
     
  8. Mac-7

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    The sexual revolution

    The high oit of wedlock birth rate and fatherless families

    The scorning of Christian religion

    How many mass murderers are regular church goers?

    Not many I suspect

    There is a certain base morality in the old conservative culture that has been lost today
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And your your refrigerator can't save your food, your AC can't cool your house. Stop fetishizing, you don't even know how these work
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Watching "The Righteous Gemstones" I see.
     
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    Knives are simply a tool, what is driving people to act is their lack of morality or ability to distinguish between right from wrong.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And a certain capacity for logic that has never been there at all in most religious thought

    You cannot establish the slightest scintilla of a real connection between the things you mentioned and the current massacres, yet you continue to act as if the actual weapons that do the killing have no relationship to the matter at all.

    Go ahead, spend the next several posts trying to prove that you CAN shoot people with guns that aren't there.
     
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    I think I already have linked the modern liberal culture to the mass murders suddenly griping our nation

    The gins are not new but the lib culture is
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Really? What is the actual connection, the proximate cause? How does the sexual revolution kill the person in the same way the gun does? How does it penetrate their flesh and cause the fatal trauma?

    Would the sexual revolution cause that injury if the gun was not there?
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Bullshit, the number of guns in America today is unprecedented. Expecting that number not to have any effect is like saying that all our cars have no effect on traffic or all our electrification has no effect on our lighting.
     
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    I was quite clear in what I said.
     
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    So, to be clear, I can now rest easy knowing that Obama is definitely not coming for my guns, right?
     
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    Yes it certainly was clear and I concluded correctly
     
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    The cause is the erosion of morality within liberal culture

    Liberalism is a culture of self satisfaction through carnal pleasures

    Which leads to high divorse

    Which leads to fatherless boys with no male leadership

    Which leads to disaffected children killing other children
     
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    And do you agree with Trump?
     
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    The number of PEOPLE in America is unprecedented

    Its the selfish willingness to use the guns on innocent people that is new

    As new as the liberal culture we live in
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    People have always been willing to hurt innocent people. So many guns just makes it much easier.
     
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So guns that are not there can still kill people?

    If everybody's all immoral like you say why do you want to arm them?
     
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  24. modernpaladin

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    Humans 'drive' guns to shoot, refrigerators to refrigerate, etc.

    Not the other way around...
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Guns make it much, MUCH easier for humans to act on murderous impulses.
     

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