'It's real. It's violent': After El Paso, Latinos across America live in fear

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  1. hudson1955

    hudson1955 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They should be no more fearful than any of us. We all live in fear when in public. The only thing they should fear is not applying for Citizenship as required by law.
     
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    You mean falsely testified.
     
  3. MississippiMud

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    A reaction is just that ... a reaction. You don't live in it. You don't live in the emotion. Emotion clouds reason. Leaves us open to manipulation. The media, those with an agenda love to use emotion to get their way. They don't care about the people. The people are just a means to an end.
     
  4. dairyair

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    I do and will continue, but not because I don't like him, but because his actions support it. Which has nothing at all with all people you might think I dislike.

    His immigration and foreign policy, hint Muslim ban from brown colored countries, are clues to his white nationalism.
    Also, his calls for elected leaders born in this country, who are not white, to go back to their shithole countries they came from.
    His shows his white nationalism most every day.
     
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    Many people live in an emotion. Panic attacks, depression, anxiety, are all emotional responses.
    Many people love, also an emotion.
    I agree, it's not healthy to live in emotion, but people do, none the less.

    tRUMP feeds on emotion. The emotion of fear. It works well with his base. And it works well on those his admin targets.
    Hence the reason for this thread.
     
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    no his actions don't support it. You tell yourself that because you dislike him.

    Calling that policy a Muslim ban is dishonesty. It wasn't a Muslim ban.

    That isn't white nationalism that's crying wolf. Besides one of these elected leaders is white.
     
  7. MississippiMud

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    As you said ... it's not healthy. We have a lot of unhealthy people out there. I live with someone with severe panic/anxiety.

    Of course Trump plays fear. They all do on both sides of the isle. The headline this thread references promotes fear and i doubt it comes from the Trump camp.
     
  8. dairyair

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    You tell yourself that, because you don't like people who see tRUMP for the white nationalist he is.

    It was certainly a muslim ban. It needed a redo because the 1st time the ban was to broad.

    I guess you don't know what a wolf is.
     
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    We do have lot of unhealthy people.

    Which is why I don't care for either side. It's mostly dog and pony to them, but real to those who are not smart enough that the corrupt 2 party same coin system works to keep stupid people pointing fingers.
    tRUMP certainly promotes fear. And white nationalist, using tRUMP as a platform are carrying out acts that support those people's fear.
    That's why El Paso was targetted.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    you see what you're told to see.

    no it wasn't.
     
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    He wasn't right he was an environmentalist wacko
     
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    Nope El Paso was targeted because when Malthusianists want to thin the heard they usually want to start with people they don't know.
     
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    The El Paso killer went to El Paso BECAUSE he was targeting Hispanics...He admitted it
     
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    What nonsense Mr.Smollett. No one lives in fear because of these shootings with the exception of Democrats in Chicago weher both the victims and the shooters are black.
     
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    What in hell has "crying wolf" got to do with it? Of course it's white nationalism, indeed, it's the very definition of white nationalism when he tells people who were BORN HERE to " go back where they came from"

    He's rather clearly calling AOC Hispanic and this is apparently based on her NAME ALONE, like that judge he wanted to recuse himself. Trump is clearly a racist and makes no bones about it

    And of COURSE white nationalism is white supremacism . You're saying this is a "white nation" so you just about have to be making whites top dog IF you are trying to keep it that way, which you are all are rather emphatically saying yourselves that you are trying to do

    Trump is BULLSHIT and there is NO WAY you can defend him unless you are a white nationalist/supremacist YOURSELF
     
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    Do you think that costant wanton mischaracterization of almost everything Trump says by the never Trumpers contributed to it?
     
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    calling out fake racism.

    Sure it is.

    Whatever.

    I didn't draw a distinction between the two.

    It's good to see how reasonable you can be.
     
  19. dairyair

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    I am not a political hack. Sorry.
     
  20. dairyair

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    They've been coming here for 50 or more years.
    So I guess then entire country is left by your words.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    That just what that type of person would say
     
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    You mean like "I am the Chosen One"?

    Like that?
     
  23. garyd

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    Yeah exactly like that...
     
  24. Lesh

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    What...you claim he didn't say that?
     
  25. MississippiMud

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    That's cool, you get it.

    Promoting fear is what politicians do. What is worse, and will continue to get worse, under Trump or the next is how the media sells it and the people buy it.
     

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