Harry Reid Rips Dem's Extreme Positions, "Of Course it Will Hurt Us in 2020"

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    Harry Reid the voice of reason for the dnc?
     
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    When that it true, you know how extreme the party had gotten.
     
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    Always a risk trying too hard to win the primary that you leave yourself vulnerable in the general.
     
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    Truly, it shows just that and frankly he is partly to blame. He embraced Obama’s radical agenda, blew up the senate with the nuclear option...lied repeatedly to attack Obama’s political rivals.
     
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    True, but I don't think Fox or this OP is characterizing Harry's answers correctly (GASP!!)

    He doesn't say "It will hurt us"... He says it is "politically problematic", which isn't the same thing....

    Here's the original VICE article from which Fox cannot interpret correctly...

    SNIP
    In a half-hour phone conversation with VICE News, Reid was blunt when asked if he thought supporting Medicare for All would be problematic in the 2020 general election.

    “Of course it would be,” he said. “How are you going to get it passed?”

    “I think that we should focus on improving Obamacare. We can do that — without bringing something that would be much harder to sell,” he said when asked his thoughts on the debate over whether Democrats should pursue Medicare for All or a more modest Obamacare expansion. “Improving Obamacare: People understand that. They would appreciate that. It locks in many important things.”

    “There are so many more important things to do. Decriminalizing border crossings is not something that should be at the top of the list. It should be way, way down at the bottom of the list,” Reid said, responding with a curt “of course it is” when asked if supporting that position would be politically problematic in the general election.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ecriminalizing-border-crossings-are-bad-ideas

    However, Harry is right... Push fixing Obamacare (whatever that entails) and forget about decriminalizing the border (for now)....
     
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    A radical agenda that got him elected twice....
     
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    ....and destroyed his party. Up until the last midterms, partly influenced by the then-ongoing collusion delusion, the GOP held more elective offices than any time since the '30s.
     
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    Sure sure.
     
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    Lied about Mitt Romneys not paying taxes. As much as I think Reid was old and incompetent, he did give us this,
    "As of August 14, 2019, the United States Senate has confirmed 146 Article III judges nominated by President Trump, including 2 Associate Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, 43 judges for the United States Courts of Appeals, 99 judges for the United States District Courts, and 2 judges for the United States Court of International Trade"
    Thanks, Harry, you aren't as big an ******* as I once thought you were.
     
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    Agreed, and that is true of the GOP also when they have candidates fighting to be the nominee.
     
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    The extremist positions will appeal to the nuts in the Dem's base, but won't work in the general election.

    A montage of all of the extremist sh*t they're saying now ---- but which they will try to walk back later ---- would make for a great commercial for the GOP to use against them when the time comes.
     
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    So to recap now Obama, Harry Reid and many other former leaders of the party have called out the losing democrat strategy.

    And the dems are tone deaf to it.
     
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    This is true...the propaganda machine was working double time to cover for his lies. Obviously, lied about obamacare, clearly lied about the war on terror, and clearly lied about the economy
     
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    Taking extreme positions didn't hurt Crooked Donnie in 2016. His positions were so extreme that he received the endorsement of the KKK in 2016.
    [​IMG]
     
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    The majority of people are all close on these issues and Dems keep saying things that will get them less not more votes. Could they still win regardless? Ya it's possible but why take unnecessary risks?

    Medicare for all and Ubi are pie in the sky proposals and most sane people arent for de criminalizing illegal border crossing
     
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    Great
     
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    Lol, what was extreme about him? I think he is pretty moderate personally. Close to he center. He wasn’t even a Republican originally, he was independent.
     
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    Yeah, what we need to do is pick somebody more moderate. Like, Hillary Clinton.
     
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    Hillary being a moderate wasn’t the problem
     
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    It very much was the problem. Politics is, especially for Democrats, about mobilizing the base.

    Offer nothing but platitudes, get nothing.
     
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    Today's Dems seem to have taken the worst from Obama's presidency ---- the divisiveness, the identity politics, the impossible promises of free sh*t, and in Warren's case, the anti-cop rhetoric ---- but what they don't have is the momentum of "first black president" or anyone who seems up to Obama's level as a speaker.

    I don't think this strategy will work for them.

    And I'm ok with that, because I'd like to see Trump re-elected anyhow.

    I agree. I'm a moderate Independent myself. I don't see Trump as an extremist. And you're right, he wasn't even always a Republican. I'd also be curious what the left thinks is so extreme about him. Usually when someone claims a moderate position is "extreme" it's because they themselves are so far off left they can't even see the center any more.
     
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    That is not what Harry said, guys. Typical far right propaganda mush.

    Yes, is and has become even more extreme, hateful of the institutions of the democratic republic.
     

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