MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

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  1. Gdawg007

    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    No, the feds stopped subsidizing banks on FEDERALLY insured loans only. You are free to take out a student loan from any private bank. You just can't get one subsidized and insured by the government from one. Why subsidize a bank for something the government can do on it's own? There's no reason for that. That's not the same as taking over something.

    You would have a point if college costs increased rapidly after 2010 as you claim. They didn't. They have been steadily rising since at least mid 80's on roughly the current trend they are still on.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/why-is-college-so-expensive-2018-4

    My college education is telling me the data doesn't support conclusion.

    As for my conclusion, that rising costs are a result of higher demand since the early 80's due to baby boomers pushing college on their kids (with good intentions I should clarify), that would seem to fit the data. It may not be the full explanation I will concede, but you have yet to find a better one that fits the data, so I await your improved conclusion.
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    You may need to articulate yourself better because I'm confounded.
     
  3. Moonglow

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    I hardly think my cousins who are teachers in Texass give out "F"s for such an occurrence. But thanks for playing, and you are how old with how many teens in school?
    Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed, and equality before the law.
     
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    They insuranced loans , like many other loans, but folks would go to private lenders, not directly to the feds
     
  5. Gdawg007

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    Really? Please prove any of this. Mostly, the part about a teacher giving an F for someone who said this.

    As for being threatened and having your car keyed, unless you have proof the teachers or administration of the school did it, then you are failing in making your point.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You drank the Kool Aid.

    When a superior culture encounters an inferior culture, there will be problems. Survival of the fittest. It’s nature’s law. Get over it and stop crying.
     
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    More Obama causes cancer nonsense. Direct federal loans are capped at between $5,500 to $12,500 per year and caps have been in place since 2010. Roaring college cost increases? Thank banks and other private sources that lend the preponderance of money. Do you ever get sick of being wrong when a simple search can provide facts.
     
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    In what class would that question be asked??

    If asked as an opinion essay, I would give you an 'F' if you couldn't back up your opinion with some rationale.

    If asked as a fact question, it would be an incorrect answer as of 2015.

    And making statements like 'your car will PROBABLY be keyed' is why many people find your attitudes highly suspicious... Just food for thought...

    I guarantee you that a question like that wouldn't be asked in our high schools, nor should it...
     
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    Nah.... that's his stock in trade...
     
  11. Texas Republican

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    That’s not based in reality. I had two kids that just graduated from high school. I’ve been through this recently.

    The antifa attitude is alive and well in our high schools. Liberalism is a disease, spreading like a cancer.
     
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    No, the teachers won’t key a car. Other students will do it in a second if you espouse politically incorrect views.
     
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    Correct the feds insurance loans, they stopped doing that for student loans...and as the graph in your link highlights, it’s grown at a faster rate. More over people are unable to shop for lower interest rates, they are solely depended on what Congress does and that too has made debt blow up
     
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    Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed, and equality before the law. So you hate liberty, equality and consent of the governed-no surprise..ANTIFA doesn't represent liberalism or liberals..
     
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    Oh, ha ha, I get it now. Sorry, I'm a moron. :D
     
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    You can’t get a studen loan from a bank anymore. Thanks to Obama and the dems.

    Blaming private industry....typical, but it once again ignores reality
     
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    There are classes that address current events.
     
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    And while I don't agree with that form of debate, that action doesn't support your claim that schools indoctrinate students. That just says that some students are willing to take a disagreement too far. If that happens. Cars get keyed in high school for lots of reasons, I would point out, mostly because kids are impulsive and lack the ability to control themselves. This is a problem with youth, not ideology.
     
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    Sure you can what makes you think you can't?
    Here are four right off the top of me noggin'..
    • Citibank.
    • Wells Fargo.
    • Chase.
    • SunTrust.
     
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    I think it's referring to what so many Liberal Arts colleges have turned into! For decades, most of them were just comfortable places to "get a degree" in a leisurely, 'scholarly' environment, and if a student had Mommy and Daddy paying for it, hey -- why not? These kids usually ended up getting degrees in 'basket-weaving', but that was often good enough to get entry into some kind of a real job after graduation. Things have changed....

    Now, college is horribly expensive, and Korporate Amerika (along with Korporate World) is not interested in hiring people who have no real value or worth in the real world of work and accomplishment! Even worse, now more than ever, many college campuses are little more than nesting and indoctrination camps for America-hating radicals who are angry at the fact that they -- themselves -- are so helpless and useless in the 21st-century....

    upload_2019-8-21_8-12-53.png . "I got me a degree in Sociology... but I'm flippin' burgers for minimum wage?!" :party:
     
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    Liberalism is the enforcement of political correctness. If you don’t follow what is deemed politically correct, you will be destroyed by the liberal mob.

    Conservatism is the philosophy of freedom, small government, and liberty.
     
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    That's because banks won't take the risk without the loan being backed and subsidized by the feds. That's THEIR choice. In fact, most banks prefer the government to take on risk for them as they are an entitled, largely welfare driving industry. There is no law preventing them from loaning students money.
     
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    My youngest son is in the gifted program in a local college, while in high school he is taking AP classes that will give him college credits before he enters college. His top grades will allow him to attend college with full tuition paid in Missouri...
     
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    Your version of events is disputed by wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

    An examination carried out by the Federal Highway Administration discovered faults in the design of the bridge, which overestimated the strength of the bridge in the region which failed, and underestimated the load it would be expected to carry.[4]
     
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    It happens on the conservative side also try smoking a joint and your boss finds out..or say you want an abortion while employed at a church...I have no idea why you are so myopic..
    conservatism the holding of political views that favor free enterprise, private ownership, and socially conservative ideas.
    You don't get to make up the definitions..
     
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