MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Academics is not going to carry someone out of a burning building.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is it really a move to the far right? The far right is supposed to be Nazi. I don't understand the correlation.

    Please explain how you believe it will undermine progress in the country. Do you know how many graduates are filling positions that cannot pay for their education? They've been indoctrinated to believe you have to go to college. If it isn't worth it because they can't pay their loans, why did they go? It's certainly a waste of taxpayer dollars to pay for an education that cannot sustain a lifestyle they freely chose.

    I don't know. Convince me, or try.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have real world experience.

    You have your ideology.
     
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    There are lots of male firefighters who couldn't carry someone out of a burning building.
     
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    Way too many colleges these days don't educate, but indoctrinate. The left knows this is true, but they are very good at playing dumb. It comes natural.
     
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    No you don't. No high school has a policy where a teacher can be allowed to give an "F" because some student says marriage should only be between a man and a woman nor can a teacher be allowed to threaten a kid with violence. Stop being absurd.
     
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    There are a lot of male firefighters that got passes on the physical exam?
     
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    Explain how students in nursing classes are being indoctrinated. How about computer science classes? How about accounting classes? How about mathematics classes? Curious what these students are being taught regarding indoctrination?
     
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    Engrish please..One can get a student loan through a private institution as I have already proven. The Feds offer a student loan regardless of the credit report or asset declarations of the family...Which is why most folks go to the Dept. of Ed...
     
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    Its one of the democrats major platforms to appeal to base voters
     
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    What's the difference if they got a pass or not if they can't carry someone out of a building?
     
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    You might want to rethink what you are posting.
     
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    To repeat:

    An examination carried out by the Federal Highway Administration discovered faults in the design of the bridge,

    which overestimated the strength of the bridge in the region which failed, and underestimated the load it would be expected to carry.[4]
     
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    President Obama will sign a bill today that ends a 45-year-old program under which banks and other private-sector lenders such as Sallie Mae receive a federal subsidy for making government-guaranteed college loans.
    Which doesn't mean that a bank will not give a person a student loan..
     
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    Minority what?
     
  18. ECA

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    Still your opinion.
     
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    Engineered and built. I have done numerous surveying calculations and survey work on bridges as well. Not necessarily all disciplines on the same job. In order to properly design any Engineering project, a competent Engineer MUST have an idea on how a project will be constructed. They might not be able to perform all of the welds or forming for concrete, but they MUST know how it is done. Any design is worthless if it can not be constructed.

    I understand what you are saying. One of the most common complaints made by Engineers is that they no longer get to do the "fun" stuff (design) after they get their license. The are task with "Project Management" more often than not. I would say it is more of an issue with the company. Different companies utilize their Engineers in different fashions. Many Engineers wear different hats. Some wear the Engineer hat and some wear the Project Manager hat. There are many Engineers that do much more Engineering (design) than Project Management. A Project Manager DOES NOT need to be an Engineer, but design must be overseen by an Engineer.

    I have no idea what you are saying in the sentence above. Per definition, and Engineer is a person that designs or builds. Maybe the issue is the broad definition of what a "problem" is.

    Per State regulation (consistent with all States) a person can not call legally call themselves an "Engineer" if they are not licensed (talking Civil Engineering here). That does not mean they are not capable of performing Engineering services though. Even if a non-licences Engineer (Senior Technician) over-sees other technicians, a licensed Engineer is required to supervise, review, and approve any engineering design. While it is true that a company can be found liable for Engineering defects, the stamping Engineer is ultimately responsible....and ALL Engineering drawings MUST be stamped by a licensed Engineer.

    I do agree 100% that any Engineering works is NOT beyond the capability of women.

    Every State that I am aware of has a requirement that the engineer is responsible for the proper construction of their design. It is true that many companies do not obtain a contract for post-design work. However, that does not legally absolve the Engineer of the responsibly to insure their design is built properly. Many Engineers that have lost their license will attest to that fact. Because of this requirement, our company no longer takes on jobs where we do not have a budget for at least some minor inspection. If we do not have a budget for full inspection, we require that we are included in all inspection reports from the Construction Management company. Also, if you have been in the business for long, you will know that when a project goes south, everybody involved (from design through construction) will be named in the lawsuit....especially the stamping Engineer and the company they work for.

    Engineers most certainly DO dictate how a project needs to be built and they do so through Contract Specifications. It might not always be the Design Engineer, but an Engineer will stamp the Specification. If a Design Engineer does not review those Specifications to insure that proper construction practices, in conjunction with his design, are being used, then he/she is negligent.

    Construction contractors are certainly required to follow the Contract Specifications. Inspection is only to insure that the Specifications are being followed, but it does not alleviate the Contractor from following the Specifications if the inspector misses something. The Construction drawings and Specifications are part of a contract. Not following them is a breach of contract.
     
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    Really? Then why does Trump use indoctrination rhetoric against his opponents and former colleagues?
     
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    So, you're ok with the male who can't carry a person out of a burning building being a firefighter but not the woman? See, I don't want EITHER being a firefighter. Therein lies the difference.
     
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    Translation: ECA has closed eyes and plugged ears

    So no communication is possible
     
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    If you go back to the time before they had women firefighters men were expected to carry a preson if needed

    After women were made firemen they relaxed the standards for everyone
     
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    You’re making sweeping generalizations. You and I both know this. It’s what you do.
     
  25. RP12

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    I didnt create a difference as its not a thought of mine.. Thanks for trying though.
     

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