In Eric Garner case, Justice Department declines civil rights charges against New York City police o

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  1. Xenamnes

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    If the choke hold was what killed Eric Garner, why is he still alive to be handcuffed in the video?
     
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    The medical examiners say it did.
     
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    Funny, if what you say is true the cop would be in jail right now. The only way it happens the way it did is if the city pays to prevent riots.
     
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    Daniel Pantaleo has been suspended. How about you follow the news if you're interested in it, instead of wondering around.
    https://time.com/5642606/pantaleo-suspended-garner-case/
     
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    Then why was he handcuffed afterwards? What is the point of placing restraints on a corpse?
     
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    Plenty of cops are idiots. And this thug with a badge,... lost his badge over it.
     
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    You don't need to even believe me. The cop has been fired by his own boss over this. Soon this thug would lose it all. Nobody is going to hire him. What people like you are so reluctant to comprehend is that you lot do not respect the police, and rather are defending this white thug with a badge who killed an unarmed black guy who posed no threat to anybody at any time. You defend that over what the police stands for, their policies about what a cop can and can not do, what the city thinks of it, and now the judgement of the police force itself. All you got is one guy called Barr thinks it's not worth a pursuit in court. A guy whose job was giving to him by a politician.
     
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    If he didn't there would be riots. Don't confuse justice with extortion.
     
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    You're free to post your conspiracy theories that you can not back up.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    You are wasting your time trying to explain this, especially to someone who has never even been to America.
     
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    Ultimately the matter relating to Eric Garner boils down to one simple thing. The individual in question, Eric Garner, decided that by virtue of being a black male, he was entitled to do whatever he wished, whenever he wished, however he wished, and absolutely no one was going to tell him any different. Despite having numerous felony convictions for engaging in the sale of untaxed cigarettes, knowing full well that what he was doing was illegal, he simply refused to cease committing said felony offense. He apparently concluded that the rules of society simply did not apply to him, and he was under no obligation to actually obey the law.
     
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    You're just making up a racist argument, with nothing to back it all up.

    Ultimately this is about Daniel Pantaleo, who thought he could just ignore police procedures, and execute somebody in the street by chocking him to death with a camera in his face. The police force, it's values and it's procedures that you constantly have disrespected, is not going to have it. And the city is not going to have it. Daniel Pantaleo's name is put on the blimp called internet. He won't be finding any job soon, and probably end up with some dirt low paying dead end job. He is set as an example of what happens when a white thug police officer unleashes his police brutality against an unarmed black man who poses no threat. Something that police officers are doing disproportionately often to black people.
     
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    Eric Garner had been convicted several times in the past of deliberately selling untaxed cigarettes. He knew exactly what he was doing was illegal, as well as a felony, but he still chose to do it anyway. That is what backs up the statement as being a fact.
     
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    Daniel Pantaleo still got fired for lynching that black guy in the middle of the street.
    The city still paid almost 6 million in damages that Daniel Pantaleo caused.
    Nobody is going to hire such a killer.
     
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    Individuals are terminated from positions of employment for political reasons all the time. It is not an admission of guilt or wrongdoing, or even a statement of disagreeing with the actions and/or words of the terminated individual. It is simply about the organization doing whatever is needed to protect itself from further ridicule. If one law enforcement officer has to be fired to prevent the black community from throwing a temper tantrum and rioting simply because they cannot control their emotions, it will be done without so much as a second thought.
     
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    The choke hold was illegal and wrong.
    The only person political in this entire thing, is the guy who got appointed by a racist politician, judging not to pursuit a criminal law suit against Daniel Pantaleo.
     
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    And since such did not happen, there is nothing to prevent the law enforcement officer in question from being employed by some other precinct somewhere else.
     
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    It did happen. The medical experts say so. The city is convinced it is so, and payed up. The cop has been fired over this. All you got is a political motivated person who is not willing to prosecute the guy. And the Pantaleo will probably end up cleaning desks or flipping burgers at a dead end low income job. That is what you get when you deliberately choose to not follow police procedures with deadly consequences, something you are disrespecting.
     
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    Those filthy cops murdered a man who did nothing
    Those filthy cops should have been in jail
     
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    There is no further point in continuing to bring up a dead thread. The individual, Eric Garner, was convicted on felony charges relating to the selling of loose, untaxed cigarettes at least once before this incident, meaning he knew full well that what he was doing at the time was a criminal offense. Yet he chose to continue doing such regardless, demonstrating that he did not care about the law, only about what he wanted to do for himself.

    Such is ultimately the price that is paid for selfishness. Stop being selfish and perhaps you will not be killed in the process.
     
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    Killed for selling a cig ??? And you want to live in a nation of psychopath rogue cops
     
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    Killed for failing to obey a lawful order. As a black individual, Eric Garner had reason to know that this is a guaranteed way to be killed in response. His decision to engage in such behavior regardless of knowing such, on top of knowingly engaging in the crime of selling untaxed tobacco products, is his own fault. He essentially killed himself because he simply did not care enough to not commit a needless crime.
     
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    Wow are you sick and wrong
    So a cop should just open fire on something this minor.
    You may like Saudi Arabia
     
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    It is the state of things in the united states, and has been for quite some time now. Denying the reality of the situation does not change anything, and will not serve to make the problem go away. Refusing to abide by the legal confines of the society is not the answer when such refusal can legally be met with deadly force.

    For better or worse, law enforcement officers in the united states, through decisions made by the courts, have been empowered to use deadly force for the sake of maintaining control of the situation, and cannot be sued for wrongdoing involved in such decision making. This is the reality of the united states, and it is not going to improve for a great many decades to come. Everyone involved should simply acknowledge the facts of their situation as being fact, and actually abide by the law rather than believing they are free to do whatever they want, whenever they want, and are beyond reproach for their actions, as they are not.

    To argue otherwise, is to essentially argue that society should be without law.
     

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