Yet Another MASS shooting,this one in ElPaso Texas.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    So at what point is the frequency high enough that you can lay blame on someones rhetoric?
     
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    The intent is on Dems and the MSM to divide and create hatred. They will twist every single word Trump says and claim all sorts of vile intent, they are despicable in their dishonesty. The Dems and MSM regularly call Trump and his supporters every name in the book, they like saying racist and Nazi a lot, how can dehumanizing your political opposition not result in hatred. These lies have been fed to the useful idiots and caused they to become so unhinged they will attack a Trump supporter on sight. So, who is really the hate mongers?
     
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    Why don’t you provide us with some examples of how the main stream media has twisted Trump’s tweets. Bet you can’t. Just post a few actual tweets and then pist the twisted MSM interpretation.
     
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    Simple.

    When Trump told the squad to "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came", the MSM made it such that Trump was talking about them going out of the country which he never said that. Places referring to their districts they came from, not country of origin or country their ancestors came from.

    And Trump continued and said "Then come back and show us how it is done", but the MSM never mentioned that. If Trump was racist, then why would he ask them to "come back and show us how it is done"?????

    Here's Trump's tweet...

    So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
     
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    The “ congresswomen who originally came from countries whose governments are a total and complete catastrophe....”. Now first of all three were born in the US. And since Our country isn’t a complete catastrophe Trump clearly isn’t telling them to go back to their districts in the US unless of course Trump doesn't know The difference between a district and a country.

    And Trump’s come back and show us how it is done is of course impossible since they were born in the US so if they fix the US they won’t have to come back to the US. No the Tweet is clearly Trump racism based on his beliefs that black People aren’t real Americans. Lines up with his Obama birther nonsense which apparently he still believes in today.

    Nice try. Care to try again to find an actual example because in this case the MSM got it right and you are just turning yourself into a pretzel trying to put an imaginary spin on what Trump actually said.
     
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    When that person is President once is probably enough. Of course now Trump has branched out from just being a racist to calling Jews names, To quote Trump.

    Where has the Democratic Party gone? Where have they gone where they are defending these two people over the state of Israel?” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Tuesday. “I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat, I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty.”

    A number of Jewish groups noted that accusations of disloyalty have long been made against Jews, including in Europe during the 1930s.
     
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    When did Trump call Jews names?
     
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    OMG, are you for real? Just for starters how about the Trump said White supremacists are good people lie?
     
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    What about when that person is Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders or AOC?
     
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    Comparing those peoples behavior with Trump’s is a tactic based on desperation rather than logic. Oh and by the way Neither Bernie or AOC are or have been President.
     
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    Not what he said. He said there are good people on both sides. Good people are White supremacists? Only in Trump’s mind since they do support him.
     
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    Surely you think that's EXACTLY what he said. Aren't you saying that one of the sides were white supremacists? If so, don't you think that this is the exact same as saying that "white supremacists are good people?"

    Are you saying that there weren't peaceful people on the right? Do you also acknowledge that there were BAD people on both sides?
     
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    Alright, well Obama obviously spoke about racist police at least once as President, so then was he to blame for the Dallas police shootings? Or do you admit an INSANE double standard?
     
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    Lets see if you can post your exhaustive list of Obama's racist statements.
     
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    Sorry but the comment by Trump was about the demonstrators in Charlotte not about peopke on the right. Nice try.
     
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    Are you saying that there weren't peaceful demonstrators in Charlottesville? Do you also acknowledge that there were bad people on BOTH sides?
     
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    Is it only RACIST statements which could've inspired the Dallas police shootings?
     
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    Of course not. The shooters actions were motivated apparently by revenge for what he perceived as the racist shootings and treatment of blacks by the Dallas police.
     
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    There were bad people on both sides but there were good people on only one side. Just because you demonstrate peacefully does not make you a good person or make your cause good.
     
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    Exactly! And who else perceived it in that way? NOT Obama who publicly voiced it many times?
     
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    I'm glad that you can say that there were bad people on both sides, but demonstrating in support of statues makes someone a bad person? Surely you can't be serious! Are you under the impression that nobody was there to just demonstrate in support of statues?
     
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    Sorry but there we three groups. The peaceful demonstrators on the right, the peaceful demonstrators on the left, and the violent racist, white superintendent group.

    The last group didn't have good people in it. And this was the group that Trump helped do inspire.

    Or we could have two groups. The violent hate inspired and peaceful demonstrators. So if Trump is saying there are good people in the hate inspired group that does say a bit.
     
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    Antifa was there and they are violent.
     
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    Exactly! And who else perceived it in that way? NOT Obama who publicly voiced it many times? Will you avoid answering AGAIN? VERY telling!
     
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    Earlier you said that "there were good people on only one side." And in the above quote you acknowledge "peaceful demonstrators on the right." Aren't these demonstrators good? Earlier you also said, that "there were bad people on both sides" but in the above quote you only mention "peaceful demonstrators" on the left's side. You're TOTALLY confused!

    How the hell do you know that this was the group that Trump was specifically referring to? And what do you mean he "helped to inspire" them?
     

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