Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

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Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

  1. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Israel.

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  2. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Palestine.

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  3. I have no reason to believe that some US and British media outlets are biased on Israel & Paelstine.

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  4. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in either direction.

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Yes...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you mean like Tel Aviv made up the story about its attack on the USS Liberty?
     
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    I believe you're referring to your post # 76 in which you said: "So they have largely supported Israel's position?"

    Yes, I do agree that MSM almost always supports Israel's position on virtually everything.

    In fact, I cannot remember reading ANYTHING in America's MSM that was critical of Israel's ethnic cleansing, aggression, betrayals and / or war crimes.

    I'm not sure which "banning affair" you mean
     
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    You have absolutely no proof that the quote I cited* that exemplifies Israeli parasitism is a "fraud".

    If you did have proof, you would have posted it


    * "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."- Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, Israeli politician and the current Prime Minister of Israel

    https://quotes.k0nsl.org/netanyahu-america-can-dry-up-and-blow-away.html
     
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    Is that a reliable source?
     
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    The banning of Omar and Tlaib. You know about it?
     
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    Since the same quote appears elsewhere in several places, it is at least my opinion that it is a reliable source & a valid quote.

    Netanyahu spoke those words in one of his meetings with Jonathan Pollard and I'm sure that you can understand why it is not widely published in America's pro Israel MSM.

    Revealing quotes like that are also anathema to Israel's network of paid, trained and scripted Hasbara "advocates"(1) who are also are trained in how to manipulate Wikipedia.(2)


    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”
    https://middleeastatemporal.wordpre...he-united-states-it-can-dry-up-and-blow-away/



    (1) "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/

    EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Israel and partisans of Israel have long had a significant presence on the Internet, working to promote the Israel narrative and block facts about Palestine, the Israel lobby, and other subject matter they wish covered up.

    In addition to these, however, a number of orchestrated, often well-funded projects sponsored by the Israeli government and others have come to light. These projects work to place pro-Israel content throughout the Internet, and to remove information Israel doesn’t wish people to know.

    Under this program, Israeli students are paid $2,000 to work five hours per week to “lead the battle against hostile websites.”

    Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia:" CONTINUED


    (2) "Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY
     
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    Oh, yes, that banning affair.

    I can only comment on the MSM reports that I've read but U.S. MSM seems to have locked onto the Israeli P.R. line that "She (Tlaib) hates Israel more than she loves her grandmother." and Israel's army of Hasbara trolls have been parroting it ever since.

    In other words, U.S. MSM is, of course, condemning Tlaib for rejecting the strict conditions under which she can visit her grandmother.

    Now, Tlaib's grandmother is making news by condemning Trump's meddling & current ridicule of Tlaib by saying of Trump:
    "May God ruin you..."

    Briefly put, U.S. MSM is doing its best to make Tlaib look petty for rejecting Israel's undemocratic restrictions on any visit to her grandmother.
     
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    What strict conditions? They're simply allowing her entry!
     
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    What examples of MSM outlets? I know that you can't be talking about the USELESS New York times!
     
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    Based on what?
     
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    What about this?: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/world/middleeast/israel-crimes-against-humanity-gaza-un.html
     
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    Well I see 'having a voice' as an entirely different thing than 'being covered by the media.'
     
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    Do you really?
     
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    Do you not have a voice?
     
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    Yes, there are very rare exceptions but even in the article you cited a substantial part of the article was of the Israeli viewpoint.

    Additionally, I was careful to say: "... almost always supports Israel's position on virtually everything.

    However, the NY Times is among the more biased MSM sources:

    Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”
    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

    EXCERPT “The Times regularly fails to mention that the Palestinian territories have been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. It often uses euphemistic language to describe Israel’s illegal activity, dubbing lands unlawfully seized by Israel in violation of international law “disputed” territory.

    Rights activists have been so frustrated by the publication’s skewed reporting that, in February, activists from progressive Jewish human rights groups created a very convincing-looking fake edition of the Times to protest its coverage of Israel-Palestine.”CONTINUED
     
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    What strict conditions? They're simply allowing her entry!
     
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    Is the mainstream media a reliable source?
     
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    On what subject?
     
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    On any subject except the weather.
     
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    I don't think that I can list all the MSM outlets in one brief Post but some examples would include CNN, Reuters, PRN, Associated Press etc. and, yes, the "useless" NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune etc too.

    I don't really consider the NY Times and other major print newspapers to be useless and in some instances it / they can be quite informative about apolitical issues like archeology, medicine, science, and art to name a few. At the same time, you have to read sources like the NY Times with a critical eye & recognize its biases especially when reading Mid East related topics.

    I try to absorb all the different views I can and weigh their validity with that same critical analysis.

    Finally, I've found that frequently, what you are being told is not as important as what you are not being told. That's why it's important to question established narratives & stereotypes.

    I hope I've answered your question thoroughly enough.


    Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”
    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

    EXCERPT “The Times regularly fails to mention that the Palestinian territories have been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. It often uses euphemistic language to describe Israel’s illegal activity, dubbing lands unlawfully seized by Israel in violation of international law “disputed” territory.

    Rights activists have been so frustrated by the publication’s skewed reporting that, in February, activists from progressive Jewish human rights groups created a very convincing-looking fake edition of the Times to protest its coverage of Israel-Palestine.”CONTINUED
     
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    Are you an Alex Jones fan?
     
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    The NY Times was certainly defending the Congresswomen TO THE HILL in relation to the banning affair.
     
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    Not really. I have visited his website, but see him as just another angry man like Rush Limbaugh.

    Are you?

    And I'll ask again, not expecting an answer--do you consider the mainstream media to be reliable?
     
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    I wouldn't say that I'm a fan, but I like some of the things that he talks about.

    Why not?

    It's reliable in delivering biased news.
     
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