Democrats getting more strange all the time.

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have a link to show that what I posted is false...??

    You don't because the Death Panel situation is actually quite real.
     
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    LOL.. Like Sarah Palin isn't the dumbest woman in America.
     
  3. ECA

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    You want me to provide a link to something that doesn't exist? Let that sink in.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Baloney... doctors and services are mostly contracted.

    https://www.va.gov/health/OurDoctors.asp

    Independent Providers in the first sentence might give you a clue.

    And Pharma and Med Lab services, that were once VA employed are in the same realm.
     
  5. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    So you mean no evidence beyond wanting to double down on the mountains of rules and regulations already in play? Raise taxes on everyone to the point that we are working for government 2/3 of the year rather than merely 5/12? And sorry no the rich and the corporations don't earn enough to fund all these pipe dreams the dems are throwing out.
     
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    Raising taxes doesn't make a country socialist
     
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    Dude when you ration health care through the government death panels are a necessity. I fully grant you that the people who want to do this aren't nearly stupid enough to call them that, they have names like cost control boards or health cost rationalization boards but in the end it comes down to who lives and who dies and under what circumstances.
     
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    What rationing? There is no rationing of healthcare going on in the US.
     
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    You miss the point if you are working half the year paying taxes for half the year you are the government in essence owns your labor. What do you think that means?
     
  10. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just stated the obvious... It doesn't exist because it doesn't reflect reality.

    This is how it played out under Obama...

    1. A claim was denied for services
    2. The doctor couldn't continue with the treatment plan if the government was not going to cover the cost.
    3. The patient waited until some resolution was made while the medical condition grew worse.
    4. Many patients died off because treatment options were not applied in a timely fashion.

    AKA Death Panel... A backlog of about one million cases trimmed the heard of those who paid into Medicare all of their working lives.

    AKA SCUMbag "Socialist Utopia" Democrats
     
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    No but everyone who does socialized healthcare, which is, in essence, what medicare for all is once all the sliding down the slope is done, has a board of some sort that determines who can be treated for what condition and when and for how long.
     
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    So if taxes is socialism then the US has always been a socialist country. Guess we're done here
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The VA choice plan that Trump just put into play curtailed the rationing that was going on at the VA.

    Seriously, you people have got to get past the Democrat propaganda.
     
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    What you claim happened NEVER happened. It's all in your mind
     
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    To a certain degree since the income tax first came into existence in 1916. Do you wish to be a slave to the government for five months or eight months?
     
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    You think there will be a board who makes decisions for 320+M people? That's cute
     
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    The hell you say it was all over the news while Obama was president. People died while bureaucrats dithered over eligibility requirements or other such BS.
     
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    Since I need to work to support myself I don't consider myself a slave to anyone. I have to work to earn money anyway.
    That being said...I haven't advocated for higher taxes so you seem to be arguing against a position I don't hold
     
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    Show me all this news
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it was.... And the honesty of ECA, or more precisely the lack of candor, is on full display.


    https://medcitynews.com/2016/06/medicare-appeals-backlog/

    Yet another reason why Trump won in 2016.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The proposals do not address what hospital representatives say is a key cause of increasing appeals, independent audit contractors who can reject payments to hospitals.
    The American Hospital Association contends that those contractors unnecessarily cut off many payments and that hospitals frequently win the appeals." MedCityNews
     
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    This is unfortunately what Congress does. Look at how the Democrats are trying to obstruct Trump at every turn and even went so far as to try to overthrow him. That is beyond the pale...
     
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    THAT’S your proof??? Hahahahaha
     
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    Ironically that's a sophomoric twist of the mans question, clearly to evade acknowledging the fact that harmful and helpful are not the same thing.
     
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    As it turns out I don't give a rats a$$ what you think. Cheers
     

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