Assault rifle ban will fail without objective definitions because...

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would also shut down most all of the Florida based firearm manufacturers costing the state millions in tax revenues while un-employing thousands of Florida workers.
     
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    They are of course totally different systems. Gets bad enough everything goes down. My landline hasn't gone down in thirty five years in Florida.
     
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    There are thousands of workers making firearm in Florida?
     
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    Nice try. You have no clue
     
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    Purposely made vague so they can redefine it later while the useful idiots who don't know which end of the gun a bullet comes out of tries to tell us what we can or cannot own.
     
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    I have worked in communications both wireline and wireless for Motorola, BellSouth and AT&T for over 3 decades and I can assure you are the one who lacks an understanding of how the various systems interact and can fail to interact when it comes to a disaster.

    There are agencies in the panhandle who still have not been cut back to their original systems due to the damage inflicted by Michael.
     
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    Yes there are.
     
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    There are 150 licensed gun manufacturing companies in Florida. If they have 15 workers apiece, that's thousands of workers.
     
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    To say nothing of the federally licensed firearm dealers within the state, who will simply not be able to stay in business if all semi-automatic firearms are rendered illegal for ownership.
     
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    Young gals protecting themselves is a masculine issue?
     
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    Young girls carry assault type weapons to protect themselves?
     
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    You do know the meaning of “if” one assumes. And just to help you follow the thread we were talking only about assault style weapons not all guns.

    Nice try though.
     
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    Why is ‘style’ important?
     
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    You can call them assault weapons if you prefer although legal definitions are all over the place. The point remains that young girls are not carrying assault weapons as a means of self protection. And by “ young girls” one assumes you mean under eighteen or is it sixteen?
     
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    Nobody carries “assault weapons” for self defense.
     
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    Depends on your definition. Per some people, any semi-auto with a greater than a 10-round magazine is an assault weapon. Also, in the opinion of many home defense experts, the AR ranks up there with a shotgun (or semi-automatic pistol) for home defense. That's what I plan to get when I'm too old and feeble to use my 9mm (if it's still legal). A 6 lb carbine is much easier to aim and handle than a pistol, and doesn't take nearly as much physical strength.
     
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    Well, Kel-Tec employees 300, and their product line is semi-auto pistols and rifles and pump shotguns. A good part of their product line will be banned. That's just one of the 150 manufacturers in the state. It's not far-fetched to think that thousands of people would be affected by a ban on all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns (which is what the proposed FL constitutional amendment would do), not just "assault weapons."
     
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    That comment speaks volumes of your ignorance of gun owners.
     
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    There are no current federal definition for the rifle with style. You can't define one so how can you ban them.
     
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    Once again you are totally incorrect, had you bothered to take the time and read the proposed amendment you would have discovered it will ban almost all semiautomatic rifles in the State of Florida.

    But remain uninformed if you wish.
     
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    Including the women that buy?
     
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    Once again incorrect.

    Most cell sites utilize backhaul that pass's through the ILEC's CO's, if a CO is lost cell sites go down, landlines go down, 911 goes down and public safety lines go down.

    This happened in both Katrina and Wilma.

    Since you have admitted you don't live in an area prone to being wiped out by a hurricane your landline experience is not a good comparison to the real world.
     
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    Since you have claimed I am clueless about telephony, I present this to the forum to judge and decide, what I believe is a false claim presented by yourself who doesn't understand what is required to deliver landline service.

    Telephony 101.

    Landlines work out of Central Offices (CO), which operate on -48 Volts Direct Current (-48 VDC), in order for that -48 to be produced from commercial power a rectifier and charging bank is installed.

    This is a small 300 amp one in a tandem office, but it provides an idea of what I am describing.

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    To prevent an office from crashing when commercial power fails we install -48 VDC battery strings, in this case a 2400 amp hour string, this should keep the office up and running for at least 8 hours, normally that much time is not needed, because a on-site genset will kick in and take over within 30 seconds.

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    However in the real world chit happens, gensets get a backseat, they fail and when they do it is noticed at the worst possible time, when disaster strikes.

    And guess what, that is not the time to get out there and roll an new genset to solve the problem, the roads are blocked and we in the phone company cannot hit the streets until the local power company declares it is safe for us to go out and work.

    This is a photo of a genset which was ignored for years, it failed and the site went down, a new genset was temped in to bring the site back up 3 days later.

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    This is real world in telecommunications.

    Then there are real world things like OSP wiring, which provides the pairs that service your landline.

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    In the real world your landline very well may be passing through this splice case.

    Or maybe this one!

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    Or maybe this?

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    And this is SOP for dialtone.

    As such I am calling BS on you claim your landline has not failed in 35 years, because as a person who has intimate knowledge of the POTS network, the outside plant and has worked with it for decades, I know for a fact that is a totally false claim.
     
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    It is simply not possible for yourself to either comprehend, or otherwise accept, that purchasing a firearm has nothing to do with matters of masculinity or the perceived lack thereof, is it?
     
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