Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

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  1. Heartburn

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    What difference does their reaction make to the outcome?
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    It certainly proves that the shooter was not calmly talking to her. Did he threaten her, did her boyfriend hear any threats
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It keeps people in check who cant control their emotions.
     
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    I dislike handicap individuals demanding they be treated as equals and then crying for special favors. I hate handicap parking. Its assinine waste of time and space. My function in life is not to make other's lives easier at my expense. I hope the ******* who thought up handicap parking spends eternity in hell. Don't demand equal treatment while demanding special legal perks.
     
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    Death only came after physical violence had been initiated in response to being yelled at. A gross overreaction on the part of the deceased, who was not faced with anything beforehand except criticism and a lack of basic politeness.
     
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    Maybe they were startled by what both were saying? Her boyfriend came out of the store to go after the stupid guy and he sort of slipped up to within striking range before he erupted. I agree that pulling a gun is stupid but if you are at the point you find it necessary then pulling it and not shooting is stupider. That is especially true if your attacker is that close to you. FWIW, I think the guy will be convicted of something and that's always a possibility if you choose to carry a gun.
     
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    Assault and battery is a serious violent felony.
    Whenever a felon is shot down in the act the community as a whole benefits.
     
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    IMO, It will be very difficult to convince a jury to convict the shooter.
     
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    Open and shut murder. I doubt the jurt deliberates more than 2 hour before convicting him.
     
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    It would be rather "idiotic" and very superficial to judge one's grammatic skills base on a common typo error. But, hell, you go for it.

    Back to this case. A philosopher whom I admire and respect, Dr. Leonard Peikoff, is fond of saying the truth is the whole. In this case, the truth is the woman was wrong to park in the handicap spot, she was wrong not to apologize and move when the man mentioned to her his irritation over her perceived indifference to the handicap, the husband was wrong for rushing in like a charging pit bull defending its territory and viciously pushing the irritated man to the ground, and the irritated man was wrong for shooting an unarmed man who was retreating and no longer a threat. All three were wrong, all three were refusing to think, all three contributing equally to the death of one man. Shame on them all, but the one with the most guilt and shame is the man who shot an unarmed man who was retreating.

    I'm on his jury, I vote to convict at a minimum, reckless homicide, no matter what the law says.
     
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  11. Xenamnes

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    Why should one not believe such? Falsified accounts of hate crimes are occurring almost every day in the united states.
     
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    Wow....your empathy for others is quite revealing.

    I absolutely have no issue with handicap parking and certainly do not think the person that took pity on people that do not have it as easy as others are able to enjoy services that those more fortunate enjoy should spend eternity in hell. I have no problem walking an extra 100 feet, if needed, when parking at a store if it means that people that are tied to a wheel chair, or have breathing issues, or are elderly and do not get around as well as I do are all able to have their life made easier.

    Here's hoping that you do not find yourself physically hampered in the future and have some dick claim you are asking for special favors.
     
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    uh.. Centre mass shooting is not to incapacitate. Going for a leg or an arm would be. Centre Mass and Head are the 2 places your trained to shoot to kill.
     
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    I hope you're right more for all ccw holders than for this guy because I believe he picked a fight he didn't need.
     
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    I TEND to agree with this guy who is a self defense "expert"
     
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    When is the decision made to shoot? At the time of the attack.

    If someone tries to stab you, then takes a step to the side when they see you draw your gun, are they still a threat?

    The questions is irrelevant, as your decision to defend yourself was made at the time of the attack.

    You don't get a time out once you realize your opponent can defend themselves.
     
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    You don't know what the guy was saying to the woman in the car. There is no audio.

    That she got out of the car is evidence she didn't feel threatened.
     
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    I have empathy for the achievers not the whiners, say like Helen Keller, Ray Charles, and Rocky Blair.
     
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    The more I watch the video and see the husband retreating the more unsure I am that the man on the ground had the moral right to fire that gun.

    He may have the legal right, but it just goes against the grain to say it’s OK to shoot an armed man.

    It just isn’t rational to kill someone over a push.
     
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    She jumped out of the car and went toward him.
     
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    My guess is that he'll be found guilty.
     
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    Silly me. They have a right to violate what ever laws they want then attack anyone who calls them out on it.
     
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    Guess who has a history of aggravated battery, domestic violence, resisting arrest, theft, driving without a licence?

    https://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Markeis_Mcglockton_2709475/

    https://www.bustedmugshots.com/florida/st-petersburg/markeis-deon-mcglockton/17991341

    I guess his threatening history goes in as well then.

    Yeah, you won't find that using Google.
     
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    It will certainly be interesting to see how this incident will differ, simply because the president of the united states is not claiming that the deceased could have been his son.
     
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    He didn't even know the guy was her boyfriend.

    He pulled up and the woman was in the driver seat. At least she got out of the car on the drivers side.
     
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