San Francisco board rebrands 'convicted felon' as 'justice-involved person,' sanitizes other labels

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  1. Space_Time

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    Are these changes necessary? Or is it political correctness run amok again? Who are the real 'justice-involved persons', the lawbreakers or the police?

     
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    San Francisco liberal insanity:

    1) A “convicted felon” is now a “justice involved individual”. And “victims” are also to be known as “justice involved individuals”. That’s a disgusting moral equivalency. There is no longer a distinction between criminal and victim. Liberal logic: both were involved in the same incident, so why address them differently?

    2) “Juvenile delinquents” are now “young people impacted by the juvenile justice system”.

    3) “Drug addicts” are now “people with a history of substance use”. As Tucker Carlson pointed out, a diabetic who uses insulin can also be called “a person with a history of substance use”. So we have no way to differentiate between a heroin addict and a diabetic.

    This is “newspeak”, which George Orwell predicted in “1984”.

    Liberalism is pernicious.
     
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    With all of the problems San Francisco has, WORDS are what they choose to focus on?? These people are total looney tunes...high taxes, high housing prices, homelessness, illegals don't matter, I guess.
     
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    I wonder how San Francisco intends to enforce these edicts.
    Will they be hiring thought and speech police?
    Will people be fined or jailed if they call a Con a Con?
     
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    What are they going to call human feces? Second hand food?
     
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    Perhaps, or maybe street fertilizer? Citizen repellant?
     
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    San Francisco was lost after their trademark went from this
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    To this
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    Presidential candidate
     
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    Troll food
     
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    Feverous imagination run amok.
     
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    They will use their labels.. racist, misogynist, word-abominator...white supremacist
     
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    Apparently the only thing that matters to leftists is decriminalizing crime
     
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    This from a city that cannot keep folks from taking a crap on the sidewalk.
     
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    Processed food.
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    The birds and the bees do it so why not humans?
     
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    My biggest issue with our justice system is what happens to people after they serve their time. Serving your time implies you broke the law, you paid the price, and now we have deemed you to be a functioning member of society again. If all that is true, then try getting a job as a convicted felon. It's really hard. And if you can't get a job, how are you supposed to reintegrate into society? And if you can't do that, then how are you supposed to not wind up in jail again?

    What needs to happen is once we release someone from prison, we are saying that they are good to be back in society. If that's not true, then we either need to not release them, or we need to reevaluate the purpose of our prison system. The goal should be to return people to society as functioning members of that society. If that's not the goal, then we are simply creating the need to incarcerate people.

    So, San Francisco may be taking a step to move away from ensuring convicted felons aren't useless in society. Whether or not a simple label change will be effective, I don't know.

    And complaining about being PC Is stupid and pointless. Solve the problem, don't worry about PC.
     
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    If I have a business and interview 2 applicants for the same job and one just got out of prison for stealing and assault while the other was never in prison I will probably hire the latter one if all other factors are about the same. People planning a crime need to think about the long term consequences. It's not my job to give them preferential treatment after they commit crimes against society.
     
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    All that says is you don't believe in reforming people. What you just said is "once a criminal, always a criminal." And maybe that's true because we don't bother reforming criminals in this country. And who said anything about preferential treatment? You just said you were preferring the person without a criminal record, so you are already the one enforcing your bias.

    So again, the question is if your opinion is the prevailing one in society, that tells me that we don't believe a prison sentence for stealing does any good. There's no other conclusion to make from your response.
     
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    How would you stop anyone from taking a crap on the sidewalk? What city has 0 instances of people pooping on the sidewalk? I'm glad you're really focused on the right things here...
     
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    There are more drug addicts than high school students in San Francisco now.

    Liberal heaven.
     
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    Who cares? If you are anybody who counts in San Francisco you send your kids to private boarding schools anyway. The underlings are of no concern as long as you keep your car windows up and ignore them.
     
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    No, Just A Man said
    I think a pattern of reform needs to be proven by the recently released felon before trust can be enshrined on him. Just carrying out a mandatory prison sentence really doesn't prove integrity and character.
     
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    The goal is to punish not rehabilitate.
     
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    Of course -- they get free needles.
     
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    So would you hire a convicted pedophile, who served 5 years, now out of prison for 5 years, to baby sit your child? No need to answer. People who want to help criminals want others to do it as they exempt themselves.
     
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    "Moral equivalence"? Oh! You mean like when Trump drew moral equivalence between anti-protesters who oppose Fascism and Fascists who killed an anti-protester!

    How does it feel to have voted for a liberal for President?
     

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