Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

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  1. struth

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    Add "shown" to your list. It's growing
     
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    The dealer will likely return the deposit, since he can't transfer ownership of the machine gun without violating the law. The condition required for the contract to be perfected failed.
     
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    You are of course aware you were proven wrong.
     
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    Figured that the claim of the title was false.

    HEH: Journalist Attempts To Buy Guns At Walmart, Ends Up Collapsing The Left’s Anti-Gun Narrative Instead.

    Short version: Non-gun owner shocked by the legal hurdles involved in buying a gun, because Obama told her it was so easy.

    Hayley Peterson of Business Insider.

    Peterson wrote that she set out to buy a gun from Walmart to see how easy it would be and found the process to be far more complicated than many have let on:

    I went to Walmart with the intention of buying a gun last week as part of an investigation into the placement, selection, marketing, and security of firearms in Walmart’s stores, and to learn more about the retailer’s processes governing gun sales.

    My journey to bring a gun home from Walmart turned out to be far more complicated than I expected.​
    She describes her odyssey ending with this:

    At that point, Peterson said she gave up trying to buy a gun from Walmart, and concluded that purchasing a gun from that store is incredibly difficult.


     
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    No contract existed. The dealer can refund the purchase price of the item.
     
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    This is about civilians being able to shoot like soldiers. This is not about soldiers.

    The figures of gun violence is sky high in the US compared to similar western nations. And domestic terrorism, mainly by the far right, is no incident.... it's getting to be typical American. It needs to end. And so the gun laws must be tightened to achieve that. It's not as if you're about to call the cops a bunch of lazy oaths not functionally properly. They are doing the best their can.... and don't make a dent in this.

    And I was discussing the AK.
     
  7. struth

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    Sure there was a contract to purchase a gun.
     
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    No there wasn’t. There was a financial transaction.
     
  9. struth

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    Money was exchange as part of the contract. One promised to pay, and in exchange for a gun. Before ownership could legally be transferred the atf had to approve.
     
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    There was no contract. Only a financial transaction.


    Incorrect
     
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    Look up the word contract too....
     
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    You were shown to be incorrect. As you know.
     
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    Sounds like you are waving the white flag.
     
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    By proving you wrong once again? Lol ok
     
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    White flag noted. I can see your slow evolution on this thread....you just don't seem to be able to admit it.
     
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    Proving you wrong is the exact opposite of a white flag. How silly of you.
     
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    I've accept your concession....it's ok to move on
     
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    It's base used to see if folks trying to purchase a gun have a criminal record, if you don't have a criminal record then what is the problem?

    What the hell does any of that have to do with someone who is mentally ill purchasing a firearm?

    Mandated by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 and launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, NICS is used by Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to instantly determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy firearms. Before ringing up the sale, cashiers call in a check to the FBI or to other designated agencies to ensure that each customer does not have a criminal record or isn’t otherwise ineligible to make a purchase. More than 230 million such checks have been made, leading to more than 1.3 million denials.

    This database was around long before Pres. Obama got on the scene so you are lying through your teeth.
     
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    Nothing...so why did Obama our people with no criminal record on it? People that simply were getting mental health treatment?

    What am I lying about?
     
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    What ****ing criminal record are you babbling about? Everyone is ran through the system when you purchase a firearm. If you have been diagnosed with a mental record then you can't buy a weapon, what is the problem>
     
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    1) being diagnosed does not keep you from buying a weapon
    2) nor does it make you a criminal
     
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    Your mental health shows up on a background check only if it was in connection with a crime. A background check will not pull your medical records otherwise. Being diagnosed with a mental illness and/or receiving treatment for mental illness does not show up on a background check if not connected with a previous crime.
     
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    So you think someone being diagnosed as mentally ill should be able to purchase firearms.
    Nobody ever claimed it did, that is some bullshit you came up with.
     
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    With just a simply diagnoses yes...and there is no law against it.

    Then why put them in a criminal database, like Obama did?
     
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    So how do you know someone is mentally ill if they are not diagnosed and there should be a law against it since you and the President claim that they are the ones committing the mass shootings.

    He didn't.
     

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