Stand Your Ground: The United State Of Cowardice

Stand your ground law is a coward's law that protects cowardly acts. This law for coward's needs to be repealed in Florida and other states that him them?!! This law gives courage to a person who has none?!!

Is America turning into a nation of cowards, bullying out of fear?

(AllHipHop Opinion) Once upon a time, in Delaware, I was driving alone in my cherry red Ford Escort GT in a rural area just outside of Glasgow. I was driving and somehow got into a confrontation with a pick-up truck-driving redneck, who decided calling me "n-gger" was a good idea. Also, we were a stone's throw from Klan country to give you some context. This was the 90's and Hip-Hop was still aggressive, political and raged against injustices. Him calling me a n-gger meant it was time to fight. I stopped my car in the distance and so did he. The very moment I got out of my car, he quickly yelled to his wife to get his gun.

Immediately. At that point, I decided it was in my best interest to leave. I was unarmed.

My Sunday morning was ruined for me. After a vacation, I was able to see what I had heard: another unarmed man was shot in Florida. This time, it was over a parking space. A handicap parking space. The matter resulted in Markeis McGlockton, 29, being shot dead by Michael Drejka, 47, after a shove put him on his butt. Mind you, Drejka was raging at McGlockton family - his girlfriend and their children - as they sat in a minivan. Drejka's angst was such that somebody eventually summoned McGlockton, who came running to defend his family.

He did what I would have done.

https://allhiphop.com/opinion/stand-...0urI43UQKUqqw/

 

The conviction now has removed any pressure on the victim's family of vengeance.

 

I'm seeing a lot of words but not much of an argument.

 

The vid was worth many tens of thousands of words.

 

How is it 'cowardice' to not run from violence?

Those cherry picked examples ignore the norm where the law protects people who stand up to bullies and criminals.

Who really thinks folks are obligated to run from violent aggressors? What a shitty society that would be...

 

Many are unable to run. It's better to face your attacker. He/she may be a better runner than you. No obligation to run.

 

Stand your ground should be the law of the land in every state. Prudence however you learn to deescilate evade and escape. Unfortunately however that's not always an option. It is never wrong to defend yourself.

 

The guy convicted of manslaughter may disagree with you, Robert E. Allen.

 

And folks wonder why we have so many mass murders now. If you need a gun to deal with arguments with strangers, you are one sick coward. If we allow run of the mill arguments to turn deadly and legalize a lethal response under the ruse of self-defense, we might as well be living in Dodge City before Wyatt and his brothers showed up.

 

Stand your ground is the old Samurai custom of Kirisute Gomen. "to cut down and walk away" It is the wet dream of every gunnie, the ability to goad someone into a fight and then kill them. That, of course, is a gross misinterpretation of the law, as this guy found out. You still have to be in reasonable fear for your life before you can kill someone. I just hope some Trumpist judge doesn't overturn this and/or let this cowardly murderer off lightly

 

People ARE obligated not to kill people when they don't absolutely have to. Your posts betray a feeling that you can kill someone just for "dissing" you. You can't, and should leave your gun at home if you have even the slightest inkling of that misconception

It's cowardice when you kill an unarmed man with a firearm in almost ANY circumstance I can envision; unless he's eight foot tall or a known karate master you still have a GUN and he doesn't have anything (if he has a knife or a club that's different, but this guy didn't and wasn't showing any .) If worse comes to worse you can still just hit him with the gun and that will stop most people fairly effectively. If you think people with fast reflexes really can overwhelm you with the old 'action beats reaction" business you've been watching too much of "Better Call Saul" and "Kung Fu".

 

No matter what the laws are or could ever be, it will always be better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

 

Pure BS. Dissing is words. You wont find me advocating for responding to words with physicsl contact anywhere ever because I don't. Stop making **** up about me.

Even pushing someone down can cause them to hit their head on concrete, which can easily result in anything from brain damage to paralyzation to death.

Its very simple: dont physically attack anyone. Thats called offensive violence, and offensive violence is always wrong.

 

In the UK, the guy screaming to his wife, "Get my gun" would lose his guns, shotgun/firearm certificate, fined and no doubt, locked up.

 

You can't kill someone for shoving you hard, which is basically what this guy did. Fer crissake, given the circumstances as reported the victim may have actually rescued his wife and kids from this insane redneck who was about to pull his pistol and kill them all. How in FRACK can anyone defend this *******?

 

Im not talking about this guy.

Im talking about the bulk of stand your ground law scenarios that arent this particular cherry picked case.

 

OIC, Point taken, I apologize.

But I still wonder about these laws. You can "stand your ground" under any circumstance, but you're still obligated not to kill someone unless your life is under reasonable threat, so what's the difference?

The majority of violent confrontations don't allow you to run away realistically anyhow

 

IMO its in attempt to avoid the slide toward laws that criminalize self defense like in the UK. All legislation based on the wording 'reasonable' is essentially saying 'a jury will have the final word'.

Im guessing the jury in this case saw his shooting after he was already on the ground as retaliatory instead of defensive.

 

Stand your Ground doesn't mean you can pick a fight. IMHO, Drejka is guilty of murder.

 

SYG is simply an extension of the Castle Doctrine, that you are under no legal obligation to retreat when attacked in your home, car or place of work.

 

Had a friend that was being bursued by his girlfriends father. Pulled into a Home Depot parking lot and stayed in the car. The father approached and was reaching in the window for him. My friend yelled get away I have a gun. After the father had punched him several times, my friend fired a fatal round. There were witnesses to the whole thing. They took my friend to the police station and wrote up a report He was then released and got his gun back the next day. That is how the law should work. Tragic though.

 

really sad that happened.

 

I just never get the liberal response to this. It's like you must take the beating, or die, never have the state respond, and then live in fear because you can't be saved by the government that liberals would require you to be dependent to.

Liberals these days seem to feel that somehow I must sacrifice so as not to otherwise inconvenience the criminal element wishing to steal my property or life, and live in fear. Why? Because folks who are afraid become dependent. And that's how liberals roll these days..

 

Vast majority of folks don't need a gun to deal with conflict. I can't recall a single mass murderer who claimed self defense. Can you? Your attempt to connect self defense to mass murder is irrational. Should we be concerned?

 

That is an exaggeration of events in the video. There was no way to know he was armed much less about to shoot everyone in the car.