Planned parenthood leaves title x family programs because of abortion rule

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  1. FoxHastings

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    Just LOOK at how Anti-Choicers think women are so stupid they don't know what "pregnant" means....
     
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    I never said this

    I agree

    I agree

    We have an issue of too many unfit parents continuously bringing life into the word that is neglected. People that abuse children should not be allowed to continue to have them.

    I agree

    They would have to be willing, if they are unwilling the temporary procedure would not be done.
     
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    Bet you are just fine with taxes paying to slaughter children in war ?????


    Do you protest war?
     
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    Federal funds by law, can not and do not pay for abortions. That will not change no matter how many times you post incorrectly.
     
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    That would be the pro-abortion side which believes it can convince them into believing its not a human life, not a baby, just some vague unspecified blob of cells they are having "removed" in an abortion.
     
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    You can wish all you want including keeping women about to kill their babies less informed. Informed consent laws serve a useful purpose that you oppose them simply because a woman might change her mind and not kill her baby is quite telling.
     
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    No i don't have time for protests.
     
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    Except you are wrong...
     
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    So you're against banning abortion because you say that it would be taking away women's right to their own bodies, but yet you're perfectly okay with women being sedated against their will! :roflol:Yeah, because sedating a woman against their will giving them reduced control over their bodies is NOT taking away their right to their bodies! :roflol:
     
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    I'm not interested in discussing this with you.
     
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    A zygote isn’t a baby, it is a diploid cell resulting from the fusion of two haploid gametes.
    An embryo isn’t a baby, it is a cell that is developing into a multicellular diploid eukaryotic organism.
    A fetus could be argued that it is (somewhat) of a baby but up until a point that organism has the ability to live on its own it could be argued the rights of the mother outweigh it. SCOTUS precedent agrees.
     
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    If you can't afford rubbers you cannot afford to have sex...

    Birth control exuses solved right there...
     
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    It’s federal law. Tax payer funds can not and do not pay for abortions.
     
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    And i am saying that if federal money goes to buy toilet paper for the facilities where abortions are performed then by definition federal money is going to pay for the process of providing abortions.
     
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    Except you are incorrect when you say that. It’s federal law. Tax payer funds can not and do not pay for abortions. That’s not going to stop being true.
     
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    I'm saying regardless of what federal law is giving money to planned parenthood pays for abortions.

    If an abortion clinic gets 1000 bucks from uncle sam and that money is used to support the facility it is being used to perform abortions...
     
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    And that statement is incorrect.

    It objectively is not.
     
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    If planned parenthood pays 1000 bucks a month rent for a building. And the federal government gives them a thousand bucks for rent and abortions are performed there then federal money is being used to provide abortions. Because abortions cannot be performed without the facility.

    That is objectively true. Best if no tax money makes it into the hands of such a horrible organization.
     
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    No matter how many times you keep repeating this, you will still be incorrect. Tax payer funds can not and do not pay for abortions.
     
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    Yeah so you keep saying.. by which you mean based on technicalities. Which isvthe same as straight up paying for them..


    Like I said best not to give such an mal intented organization any money.
     
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    it’s an objective fact that tax payer money does not and can not pay for abortions. That is not going to suddenly stop being true. It makes no difference if you repeat the same false claim a thousand more times. It will still be false.
     
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    I’ve never killed anything, I’m not even really pro-abortion in general. I do support not bringing children into the world that will be more likely to end up in prison because they are from a broken home, unwanted and unloved or thrown into a state or religious run institution to further be neglected.

    The anti-abortion sides positions just don’t make sense.

    Statistically, the “pro-life” crowd are anti social programs, anti welfare, anti food security programs, pro gun, pro death penalty, pro war, pro debt...
    It just doesn’t make sense. It seems to be more about control than actual caring of the sanctity of life.

    Until you can come up with a better argument than “a dividing cell is a baby” and “we should force women to not have alternatives because sex is bad” — especially in early trimesters, it isn’t going to register as logical to me.
     
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    There are a number of issues at play, but it all has to start from the beginning. The fertilized egg only has one direction to move, the development into a human being, there is no middle ground, it is or it isn't. Failure to accept that is nothing more than a sleazy excuse to kill a baby. The excuse to kill a baby has less to do with the baby and its right to life, liberty and the pursuit of its first breath, but economic and social issues that surround pregnancy. These are complex issues with no simple answers, but that's no excuse for killing a baby...
     
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    Yes, you did when you said that to get food and shelter for their kids and themselves they should have to be sterilized like pets and cattle.



    Oh NOW you've SWITCHED to ABUSED children....guess ya have nothing pertinent.


    NOW you SWITCHED to voluntary sterilization.



    BTW, W H O will pay for all those sterilization procedures you think will save the world???



    WHO?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Just LOOK at how Anti-Choicers think women are so stupid they don't know what "pregnant" means....






    WHERE has any Pro-Choicer said they want to convince women that a fetus or embryo is not human life?

    I certainly don't since I believe women are smart enough to know what pregnant means and Anti-Choicers do NOT.



    Calling the developing human by correct scientific names is NOT calling it """some vague unspecified blob of cells""""
     
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