Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

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Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

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  2. No

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    But there are NOT unlimited homeless people prepared to work.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    You made a general statement that the 1 in 25 jobless can stay with family and I said all can't. Making a general statement about a whole group of people means all of them.

    Enough of the insults. Right-wingers can make up things and report others when it's pointed out it's a lie. The site has a right-wing bias in moderation and I'm about ready to toss it. .
     
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    Yet they don't.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    No, that's your translation. Nothing to do with me.

    I'm no Right-winger, but hey .. you tried!
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    In other words, don't solve problems, just make them as Republicans always do.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    You don't even own up for what you say.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did you say? Are you trying to make a joke?
    And you got this information from a dream? Unless you provide jobs for them you will never be able to make such a statement.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comparing animals that CAN "live off the land" with people who CANNOT .......... MAY NOT ........ ARE FORBIDDEN TO ....... is downright dishonest.
    Yes, that is what he is saying. Don't solve problems but invent new ones in addition to the ones already in place.

    I think he's just joking.
     
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    How would you be able to distinguish them from the rest?

    "The relatives?"
     
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    The poster seemed to be defending Austin's decision to make it legal by saying, "America has a homeless problem and a city that isn't working to solve that, isn't doing a thing to solve that problem." This seems to imply that Austin's move somehow helps the homeless problem, which is outright RIDICULOUS! And please do not pretend you don't understand what I am talking about!
     
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    Do we know that people were previously getting jail time in Austin for living on the street?
     
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    Do you not make a distinction between being homeless and living on a public street? Making it illegal to live on a public street is not making it illegal to be homeless.
     
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    No, of course they shouldn't be allowed to sleep on the streets. Those were paid for by tax paying residents so they don't have to walk in mud. With homeless, it's not mud but poop they have to walk in.

    Sure, there's a problem with homelessness, but I have yet to hear an adequate argument as to why they should be allowed to infest the downtown areas. The whole idea of accepting homelessness is why there are so many homeless. Keep herding them until they are someplace that actually values them.

    I'm thinking Mexico.
     
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    Interesting. How would the government relate to non-profit organisations giving people work?
     
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    Regardless of the legality? Okay, well then aren't you contradicting your argument that making it legal helps to get people off the street "because eventually most of them will tire of the conditions that they are living under and will seek shelter?
     
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    I honestly don't know about the people on this site. I had six kids and I'm getting people telling me how being >67 and all my experience, even helping to build a homeless shelter means nothing to their selfish ways of life. Why do these tRump supporters even pretend to know things, it's like they swing for a strike on every pitch? I've known people to be wrong, but most aren't wrong about everything.

    When a city has people camping somewhere near it to live, you need those people contacting social workers to find ways to get them off the streets. Homeless shelters need to be places where people aren't exploited. We converted commercial property that wasn't being used to wards and small family units.

    I know for a fact our economy has never been designed to allow all the people wanting jobs to work. When times are good, the FED will stop it ahead of time to keep inflation under control, they don't want wages increased to keep up with price increases. That means some people will always be poor and a right-winger will complain about it, unless they are the ones receiving those benefits. If you examine the red states, they have much larger numbers of people on disability. The states are heavy of regressive taxation that make people poor. It's like they need to keep part of the population down so a group in the state can feel superior. Based on what I've heard them say, they are far from superior and are screwed up people. It would actually be a blessing for some of them to walk in the other person's shoes for a season and maybe learn some humility.
     
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    I make a distinction between reality and what is discussed by the right-wing. I don't even know why the right-wingers are harping on the homeless, because it isn't their problem and they sure as hell won't do a thing to mitigate the problem. The way I see it, it's just another heartless way for the right to point to cities that won't elect Republicans and exploit the problems in cities. It isn't like they care about people and show they don't constantly. It's probably just another mindless issue the Russians have cooked up to divide America, just like so many others.

    It boils down to who cares what a right-winger has to say about homelessness in America and the same can be said of nearly all major issues. I don't care what the Russians or the right-wing thinks about problems, I know they aren't part of the solution and are a waste of time.
     
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    So then you agree that making it illegal to live on a public street is not making it illegal to be homeless?
     
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    I haven't seen a case of people living on the streets, just a bunch of right-wingers claiming they do. Obviously, people don't go to streets being used and park there. They find places under bridges and such.

    Why don't you just mind your own business and let the cities experiencing the problems deal with it? What can a right-winger do about homelessness in America, besides act stupid? They always have to victimize someone, now, it's the homeless. The right aren't going to spend two brain cells learning how to solve such a problem.

    Take a long look in a mirror and ask yourself why you think you are superior to any human being on this planet. I sure don't see it, I see screwed up people.
     
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    Then what the hell do you call this?:

     
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    I call it a piss poor picture that looks like a sidewalk to me, but I realize many red staters don't know what a sidewalk is. I also noticed it isn't where I live, so it's someone else's business. Sidewalks are paths near streets where people stopped picking up horse **** a long time ago.
     
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    Why don't they know what a sidewalk is?
     
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    It's not part of a Jethro vocabulary.

    It's my understanding people are directed to other areas around cities and someone on a sidewalk won't be there long.

    Again, why is any of this your business? Can't you find people in your own state to torment?
     
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    What is a Jethro vocabulary?

    I hope that's the case. To confirm, when I said "street" I didn't mean the road, I meant sidewalk which is part of a street. Street should never mean road anyway.

    How do you know that my state is not Texas?
     
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    How is living off the land forbidden?

    We're not talking about people actually living off the land. We're talking these drug addled miscreants who live in the middle of cities because of people who like to virtue signal by giving them a few spare dollars and pay good money to provide them with homeless shelters.

    Anyway, that's a state thing.
     
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