Democratic field boils down to four-jackasses race

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember Rep. Tom Tancredo. So does George W. Bush.

    Holy crap, Tom is still around !

    Me thinks Media Matters spends way to much time watching Fox News.
     
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    BLOTUS = childish attack on a POTUS said child dislikes.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You are entitled to your factless opinion but the HARD FACTS are that your BLOTUS is on the record for having told over TWELVE THOUSAND LIES already!

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dona...act-checker-figure_n_5d526ff0e4b0c63bcbecbbea

    Not my problem if the man-child YOU support is a CONGENITAL LIAR!
     
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    I agree with everything you've said. With these 3 corporate stooges, and one foreign policy illiterate, they have made it 100% certain that Trump will win again. I would recommend Tulsi Gabbard. She is the only progressive democrat, with a rational plan, that is simple and doable. Stop these friggin wars, and save the trillions we are wasting, and use that money to address our urgent social issues. Without doing this, anything these "jackasses" say, are just empty promises to placate and pander to the masses.

    Her message is so powerful, and she delivers it so well, that the DNC and their corporate donors will do anything to stop her. People of other countries are laughing at us. They not only can't believe we could elect a idiot as President, but are excluding the only person that could take all 50 states.

    We need the "sea-change" promised by Tulsi, not these "trickled down" policies, to keep us fooled for another 4 years. Wake-up people, we've been listening to the same political platitudes for decades, and nothing has changed. Except the cost of living.

    Trump will destroy Biden, Warren, and Harris in a one-on-one debate. Because, Trump is not trying to be less phony, and they will be. The DNC will keep branding Bernie as a socialist, and smearing him, until people start ignoring him. Since people don't care anymore, the DNC can manipulate choice. You can either vote for the candidate they have chosen for you, or not vote at all. Either way they win, and the people lose again.

    Have we all been so conditioned to hearing the lies, that when we hear the truth, we assume that it also must be a lie? Please, stop these wars. We are just heading for another recession, because of all the debt we have accumulated. Who do you think will be paying this debt back? Who do you think will continue to suffer because of it? We need change now. Not just the promise of change
     
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    If they ran Tulsi, they would probably win. They'd rather lose than see her secure the nomination.

    Elizabeth Warren’s pushing for free college. Meanwhile her Harvard professor husband earns $400,000 a year.
     
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    I agree tulsi Gabard was the best of the democrat candidates, democrats hate to hear it but their party always chooses their winners and sticks it to those that arent the chosen. Just like what they did to Sanders to assure Hilary would the nominee.

    I make no predictions on elections because im just bad at it. If forced to have to say whether I thought trump would win or not.

    I would say I dont believe he will win re election.
     
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    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every single Democrat candidate is either flawed or far to progressive left for the country. There were 25 democrat candidates for Potus 4 have dropped out, that leaves 21 lamers left
     
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    DIRTY COP OUT OF CONTROL: Kamala Climate Power Grab: Green New Deal, Banning Fracking, Suing Exxon, Banning Straws.
     
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    tRump only gets up to 40% against any of them.
     
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    Everyone thought Hillary would win against Trump in 2016, but talent, exposure(good and bad), and charisma, will always win over bad looks, bad policies, bad health, bad lies, and poor intelligence every time. The only thing that beats this, is true empathy, a soldier's integrity, a palpable gravitas, and the experience of years of command. When you add to this good looks, good policies, exceptional intelligence, and a delivery system that can destroy any candidate, Tulsi is clearly on a different level than the rest.

    This is not rocket science. By stopping all regime-change wars, bringing our troops home, and closing down unnecessary US bases all over the world, which corporate industries would this not be in their best interest? Do you think the MIC, the FFI, Corporate America, Wall Street, and the DNC Donors would do anything, or say anything, to stop their power from being challenged by the Power of the People? Do you think that Big Pharma and Big Insurance might disagree with free Universal Healthcare for all? Do you think that the corporate stooges in Congress would openly embrace, getting money out of politics, and closing the "revolving door"? In a capitalist society, it will always be about the money. And, policies can be bought.

    This is not a prediction. This is a certainty. Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Yang, are only DNC "window-dressing" to get better ratings. After Bernie receives the same treatment as Tulsi, only Biden and Warren will be our choices. Warren has no foreign policy experience, and Biden will accept money from anyone. In either case, both are too old, and both would lose(guaranteed) to Trump. The only people that will win, no matter which corporate stooge is elected, is Corporate America. What I wouldn't give to see a debate between Tulsi and Bernie. The expert in domestic and foreign policies, and the expert in domestic policies. Now that would be worth watching. This next debate will be about discrediting Bernie, and not worth watching.

    We have been watching these "dog and pony" shows for so long, that when someone comes along, and simply tells the truth and gives us the obvious solutions, we dismiss it as just "smoke and mirrors". Corporate America does have a real excuse, but we don't.
     
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    How that 40% translates into the real world - who knows, lol... I do know that there is quite a bit of angst among Dems, which would be peculiar if they thought that they had it locked up; - based on their rosy lensed poll numbers & all... I'm just surmising here, that given the chance, none of these Dem candidates (who are trouncing Trump in the polls) would concede to holding the election today... :)
     
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    Never accused you of lying!

    Your BLOTUS is a BLOVIATING LIAR and that is DOCUMENTED FACT!

    No amount of denial can alter that fact!
     
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    Your BLOTUS is BOTH flawed and way too much of a rightwing white supremacist for the MAJORITY of Americans to accept.

    So it really doesn't matter which flawed Dem candidate is nominated since NONE of them are far right white nationalists.
     
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    FauxNoise gives the Dems a 19% LEAD over your BLOTUS so even when you factor in the 8% GOP Gerrymandering and voter suppression overhead the Dems still have an 11% head start RIGHT NOW!

    On top of that your BLOTUS is becoming mentally unhinged, quite literally. His best chance would be NOW because as the economy heads into a recession because of his tariffs and he becomes less and less coherent he looks like more and more of a LOSER!
     
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    The Democrats see tRump as so bad, their focus is more about getting rid of him and tRump compounds that by constantly doing outrageous things. .

    The Orange Man has to go for sure, but the Democrats should be focusing on all the other offices in the election. Way too many people of talent aren't running. The shame of it is some Republicans are actually good enough to hold office, but their party sucks so badly, I won't vote for anyone supporting the Republican Party.

    I believe politics should be more of a younger people profession, I'd prefer having younger people in office and not people old like tRump, Biden, Sanders, even Warren is just about too old. The Senate has a bunch who should have left politics long ago.

    The reality is nearly any program that is costly will never get support to be passed, so all those pie in the sky programs that may sound good to some people aren't going to happen in the near future. It will take years to get a Democrat as President with a government that functions again.

    I expect a worldwide recession before the election and I don't expect tRump to do anything to stop it. Even with his tax cut to the rich, investment in the US has declined. It's my understanding something like half the top 60 corporations, like Amazon, pay no taxes.
     
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    And all those Democrats promising free everything are telling God's truth? Why do you think they believe the stories they spin will have a positive influence on the American Socialist Left voter?
     
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    Whataboutism DEFLECTION ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    There you go again, juvenile riddles.
     
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    There you go again with the PROJECTION!
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What we are seeing in the current polling is what we saw back in 2016, Trump supporters aren't going to admit they will be going with Trump.

    It's like what the Pew Research Center has noticed, that gun owners are no longer admitting that they own guns so when they are asked do you own or have a gun in your home ? They are saying no.

    In just a couple of years Pew research has come up with there are less guns in America than a year ago.

    If I'm polled I'm going to say I'm voting for Bernie or Pocahontas.
     
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    Do you mean polls without Russian support?

    tRump says to ignore the polls, but they all look bad for tRump.

    Maybe, it's like tRump isn't liked much, particularly with women.

    PS: Guns on the brain.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I'm polled I no longer tell the truth.

    I started being dishonest when I'm polled in 2016.

    I also no longer admit that I own guns when I'm asked when being polled.
     
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    That sounds like your problem then and it doesn't sound like the only one.

    Why don't you move, so you don't have to live in a Blue state?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what Mexicans and Central Americans do...they runaway from their problems.

    The only problem is, when they ran towards El Norte they brought their problems and politics with them.
     

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