President Trump showed a doctored hurricane chart

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    On this same day in 2011 and 2019...

    9/5/2011: Obama's approval/disapproval numbers were 43.3%/51.6%
    9/5/2019: Trump's approval/disapproval numbers are 43.3%/53.6%

    You were saying?
     
  2. ronv

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    So you want to compare one coming out of the worst recession in like forever with one that was handed a smooth running economy. Look at where Obama was when he handed it off.
    57.2.... How did Trump drag that down to 43?
     
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    Trump's approval numbers today are about the same as they were when he got into office.

    Obama's approval numbers started out above 60% in January of 2009 and fell down to the 40's.

    How did Obama drag that down to the 40's???
     
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    Honeymoon. Trump didn't have much of one because people knew he was an
    /-\ss hole.
     
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    The map he altered did
    The national weather service, the updated maps and models did not
     
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  6. MolonLabe2009

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    ...and it took about a year or two for the people to realize Obama was an ***hole.
     
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    Only because he had pencilled in a new line
     
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    And he still had consistently better approval ratings
     
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    upload_2019-9-6_14-15-38.png

    Trump has a loyal base and he got over the line by recruiting voters outside of that base but the base is not large enough by itself to elect him.

    I cannot see him picking up outside votes because everyone outside of that base loathes him with an undying passion
     
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    Polls are not accurate.
     
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    Pew over represented Democrats and under represented Republicans.
     
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    No, the major polls are reasonably accurate.
     
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    Trump recently offered to buy canada.

    I think the Brits will approve the transaction.

    I mean, who wouldn't?
     
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    Bizarre

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

    Cherry picking AGAIN :roll:

    Your graph is for one year only

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    Compare to Trump

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    Trump has been consistently unpopular since his election

    upload_2019-9-6_16-1-27.jpeg

    Plus with Trump there is the HHG factor that 50 plus percent that disapprove - they will be hard to budge because they HATE HIS GUTS
     
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    Have any hurricanes ever followed that particular trajectory? I doubt if any hurricane in world history has ever crossed Florida/Georgia into Alabama. Hurricanes in that area of the Atlantic will track north along the coast if they don't stall out in Florida.
     
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    Sadly it is not even a first

    Remember this

    upload_2019-9-6_16-11-31.jpeg

    And this

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    Only thanks to his skills with a Sharpie.

    But the point is that Alabama was not in danger on Sunday when he sent his tweet.
     
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    Those are all character flaws. And I have as many of those as he does. (Do you?)

    Only the "fraud" flaw is really serious. But whom is he defrauding by claiming incorrectly that Alabama would be affected? How did he gain by it? It's not like he claimed North Dakota was in the hurricane's path. It sounds like a reasonable, innocent, and harmless mistake.
     
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    I like critics. They sit in the cheap seats and throw things at the players. Then they ROFL like they are accomplishing something.
     
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    If you point was that you didn't have one, yes, that was well established. Does it really require that you be shown every long range forecast model track for you to understand that you're simply ignorant of them? Perhaps. The good news is that as long as we stay on the level of just "orangeman bad", you can keep up...
     
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    You're cherry picking comparing 8 years to 2.
     
  24. raytri

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    At what point does someone cross the line from a normal amount of character flaws to outright unsuitability?

    Trump lies ALL THE TIME. Every day. About things big and small. That is not the sort of character flaw we all have; that's pathological.

    At a time when a hurricane is pounding our coastline, Trump has now devoted nearly a WEEK to insisting he was right about Alabama, even though he was wrong, and even though it's not even remotely relevant anymore. In other words, Trump's fragile ego is more important than doing his job. That, again, is not a "normal" character flaw. It's pathological.

    Trump is corrupt. He has pushed his own properties as candidates to host G-7 meetings, pushed Pence to stay at a Trump resort in Ireland even though it's on the other side of the country from Dublin, where all of Pence's meetings are. He has refused to release his tax returns, so we have no idea what sort of financial conflicts of interest he has. He refused to put his businesses in a blind trust, instead giving control to his sons, which isn't giving up control at all. Those sons -- as well as Jared Kushner -- have routinely tried to land business by explicitly pointing out their connection to the president. Trump's foundation was a swamp of self-dealing; Trump University was an outright fraud.

    That isn't a normal "character flaw". That's fraud and corruption.

    I didn't like a lot of Bush's policies, but I didn't think he was a bad person, nor did I think he was unsuited for the job, nor did I think he was a threat to the republic. Same with all previous presidents in my lifetime. Whether I agreed or disagreed with them, I didn't hate them or consider them unqualified or an existential threat.

    Trump is all that and more. And that's because of Trump, not because I'm some deranged partisan. Excusing his actions as just the sort of character flaws we all have is like describing Hurricane Dorian as just another light rain.
     
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    LMAO, you just used them to justify that Trump was more popular than Obama, in your previous posts.
     
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