Trump Is A Dunce, He's Not Running Things, He's Incapable

I always fine it amusing that those who feel qualified to criticize someone has achieved a better position in life. Trump achieved president and your description is, "He's a dunce".

Sour grapes and jealousy springs to mind. If Trump is such a dunce and you're not, I'm sure you can achieve the president's job.

 

Trump made his remarks about Alabama two days after that map ceased to be operative. In any case what he said was still a mistake, and all he had to do was admit that.

 

In all honesty, America should quit this hobby of theirs, "Everytime we elect a President, we must seek impeachment by any which means".

 

Or any butt hurt liberal.

 

Lunatic-in-Chief Donnie

 

Actually the amount of support for an impeachment of this type is unprecedented since nixon so it just makes no sense to say it's a "hobby".

 

I don't think I need to explain how illogical it is to sum up a group of supports based on a single supporter...

 

That's an interesting prediction. Most economic models have Trump retaining the White House. Not sure about what happens in the Senate. If Trump supporters are as loyal as you say, they'll not only vote for Trump, but everyone associated with him.

 

You've been here long enough; you should already know the answer by now. Don't be lazy.

 

Exactly. There are at least 10-15 things that happen every week that would bring down any other prez. But The Following maintains their blind loyalty through all of it.

 

You guys do it with every president. Just this time, the Democrats have full blown Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

I didn’t, I used consolidated data from people I know personally as well as posters on this very forum.

Since you made the statement we don’t understand what trump supporters want, can you throw a few points out?

I can think of a few that have been kind of attempted:
Immigration reform, kind of addressed through a “wall” that will be less effective than meaningful programs
Regulation reform, kind of addressed by haphazardly slashing environmental regulations
Tax reform, kind of addressed by pushing tax breaks that only stay permanently for the wealthy
Respect on the world stage — failed
Healthcare improvement — failed
Getting the budget under control — failed

Have anything to add?

The only thing he has been really good at is pissing off everyone that isn’t conservative and willing to close their eyes

 

If you're referring to people you know personally, or your own personal experience in general, then it isn't data; it's anecdotal.

Yes, actually I do, and since you don't seem to understand what "data" actually is, I think this will be a good learning opportunity for you.

There is actually very interesting research/data that attempts to measure how liberals and conservatives understand one another. The study is called, The Moral Stereotypes of Liberals and Conservatives: Exaggeration of Differences across the Political Spectrum (Jesse, Nosek, and Haidt, 2012). You can find a link to the survey below:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0050092

They asked a group of 2,122 U.S. participants (more than just a few "friends") the moral foundations questionaire. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as a “typical conservative” would respond. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as they think a “typical liberal” would respond. The control group (Moderates) were also asked to fill out as either liberal or conservative.

The results of the study was interesting. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal.”

Given this research, you can probably understand why anyone would believe you "don't understand Trump supporters," as you have claimed. There is scientific research backing these claims.

Given the findings of this scientific study, I find it very difficult to take seriously those on the left who attempt to characterize the positions of those on the right. As such, I also don't know whether I should take you seriously, especially if you don't know the difference between anecdotes and "data," but I digress.

 

Comparing Presidents of the past to Presidents in the current era based on the standards we have today is a fruitless exercise.

 

Since I do not feel like fighting over semantics and definitions and ignoring that I began my posts with “I believe”, I deeply and profusely apologize for using the word “data” once over the span of four posts. I humbly request you to allow me to change it to “in my personal experience”...

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Now that you have digressed, I noticed that you spent the time to post all of the above but did not answer the single question I asked; which was, [expanded] would you care to point out some specifics as to what is causing his support to be among the highest in the history of the Republican Party (currently 88% approval) while hovering near the bottom with Democrats / liberals (currently 3% approval) and Moderates (currently 34% approval)?

What do you believe is the cause for such a separation?

 

In regard to the huge partisan blindspot that many suffer from in regard to the obvious embarrassing dimwit that is Trump, the problem is the far right loons.

If you can't see it...try opening your eyes.

 

Yeah it's all just sour grapes. Is that what you say to the never ending negative descriptions of people like Obama by Trump supporters?

Yes, it has nothing to do with the fact that Trump is a lying sack of seriously stupid, and his followers pretend they don't care and defend him no matter how stupid.

If I altered a map with a Sharpie to prove a pointless point, I'm sure you ALL would all of a sudden get just how stupid that is. But me, I'm not clever enough to be president. I would never think to do something that stupid and expect to have tons of people defend me.

Trump's greatest achievement is fooling some of the people all of the time.

 

Trump is still tweeting about Alabama, btw.

Day 7.

 

Yea, it pretty much is. The middle class was dying under Obama, that's why Trump was elected and it why he will be re-elected. His approval rate on the economy is over 50%. Most folks judge how good the country's doing by their own personal economy is doing. If they are being paid well, can find even better paying jobs and can provide for their families with money left over then all's well. If they aren't and can't.......well no amount of propaganda will convince them any different.

 

Because he's not the chosen candidate yet. Obama has said he wants to avoid the 'circular firing squad' not help it along.

Christ, it's only been 3 years . Have we forgotten how an honest pol acts already?

 

Not any more it isn’t

Rally’s are near empty as people start sliding away

 

Hmm, it's blatant you don't understand people. Trump is Trump, Obama is Obama, people on both sides understand that. It's a case that lefties want a lefty president doing lefty policies and righties want a righty president doing righty policies.

So righties didn't like Obama and the lefties have had an utter utter humongous fit over Trump. The die hards on both sides will like Obama and Trump no matter what but the vast majority know fine well when both lied etc.. But both sides are not really bothered with the majority of this because they just don't want the other party in to screw the country.

I'm right wing and always vote Conservative and sometimes UKIP, now I vote Brexit Party. Reason being, Socialist lefty policies wrecks the country. America is better off under Trump and you guys would have been screwed under Hillary.

Whether Trump drew on a map or not, it's just a playground dribble news topic, imo. But it's so important to lefties. If Clinton/Obama/Trump drew on a map and you thought it was to make an irrelevant point, what do you suggest, impeachment??

 

I would never vote for a person who draws on a map or was a game show host and has absolutely no experience and lies every day, etc etc etc etc etc.

I don't care what their policies are.

It's funny to me that people on the right go on about the "character" of people, what they do and say, making judgements, ALL THE TIME.

But then, in regard to the stupidest person to ever hold the office......"duhhhhhhhhh, who cares if he's a lying ignorant moron who has zero idea what he's doing and tweets BS all day?!"

 

Obama had no foreign policy experience.
Obama had no business experience.
Obama had no energy experience.
Obama had no military experience.

Obama was just a community organizer and a junior senator.

 

You should look up Obama...that's a pretty ignorant assessment.

Obama had no experience grabbing beauty pageant contestants by the p**sy or firing Meat Loaf on TV, I'll grant you that.

I guess you're saying though, that you don't care about character or experience.

That's what I'm saying, too....that's what Nonnie is saying.......

the right doesn't give a crap about experience or character or ANYTHING.

That much is obvious.