Feminist activist in Iran sentenced to 24 years in prison for removing hijab.

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  1. notme

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    My argument is that the US is far more barbaric since the value of human life means little to a lot... hence the mass shootings. That was my point. Not twitter. You made it all up. Thanks for trying.
     
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    Because you want to own guns and have the liberty to maybe commit a mass murder.

    My point was that it's far more barbaric to live in the US, where the value of human lives is just really low.... with them mass shootings going on there. If you can avoid being a victim of a mass shooting, by wearing a thin scarf partially over your head,... well. That's a small price. Freedom and liberty means nothing when dead.
     
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    The womb is the most dangerous place in the USA for human beings.
     
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    Nice attempt at tying this behavior to the right when the left is the one that wants USA flooded with intolerant muslims. Pushing an agenda of making saying "merry Christmas" acceptable again is hardly the same calibur as putting a young woman away for 24 yrs for removing clothing.
    Please try harder
     
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    Maybe they will use the billions of dollars that our Muslim in Chief sent them to make her prison a comfortable place.
     
  7. JessCurious

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    That last paragraph is pretty horrifying. I would not have guessed fashion was so important in Iran. Nor would I have thought
    that in a strict Islamic country with morals police there would be so much prostitution. But that doesn't excuse the hijab laws.
    Iranian men don't have dress code regulations. Its clearly gender discrimination. And giving a woman 148 lashes just for
    speaking her mind and dress code violations is barbaric. I've seen videos of executions in Iran, but not floggings - how do
    they carry that out? Are women lashed on their bare backs? That seems very misogynistic to me. I've wanted to ask you a
    question. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad brought ridicule on Iran by denying the Holocaust. Iran holds cartoon contests
    making fun of the idea of the Holocaust. What are your beliefs on the subject?
     
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  8. JessCurious

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    May I say I respect such an honest answer
     
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    Most Americans have no idea how strict the rules and harsh the punishments are for followers of the Islam faith or should I say abductees of the Islam faith.

    The majority of severe punishments in Islam are never reported. TV and news reporting are banned in most places unless deemed useful for spreading propaganda against Hebrew and Christian religions.

    This happened in my hometown.

    Father Runs Over Daughter For Being Too "Westernized"
    BY EDECIO MARTINEZ

    OCTOBER 22, 2009 / 9:58 AM / CBS NEWS
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    Father Runs Over Daughter

    PEORIA, Ariz. (CBS/AP) Police believe a 20-year-old girl was run over in a Phoenix suburb because she had become too "Westernized." And the man they suspect was behind the wheel was her own father, an Iraqi immigrant.

    Police say 48-year-old Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale allegedly ran his daughter over Tuesday at an Arizona Department of Economic Security parking lot in Peoria.

    The victim, Noor Faleh Almaleki, who lives in Surprise, Az., a Phoenix suburb, remains hospitalized with life-threatening injuries.
     
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  10. JessCurious

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    I discussed the Noor Faleh Almaleki case in my "Honor Killings in America" thread, part 2, in the United States section of this
    forum.
     
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  11. Iranian Monitor

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    All my answers are equally honest in the sense that they present the reality I know, only they often don't fit the reality that comes across from looking at isolated cases that are often misreported and provided out of context. As a whole, Iran is nothing like you imagine, even if I have tried to show you the country through more accurate lenses. I have also reached the conclusion that nothing I can say will make a difference here. People are too attached to their ideas, and besides have their own agendas, to be influenced by what I have to say. I will say it anyway, but I know it doesn't make a difference. But if there is even a slimmer of interest in any of you to actually know Iran, as opposed to proving some point about it based on what you think you know, then by all means: let me know and I try to do my part to help in the process.
     
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    For those who think Iran is such a "traditional society", here are some reports from mainstream America media outlets on some actual social issues in Iran.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/official-report-reveals-irans-secret-world-of-sex-2014-8
    An Official Report Blows The Lid Off Iran's Secret World Of Sex

    https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-iran-white-marriage-20150529-story.html
    ‘White marriage’ a growing trend for young couples in Iran

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30391593
    Can Iran 'control' its cohabiting couples?
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...hift-in-status-of-women-idUSKCN0IB0GQ20141022
    Rise in divorce in Iran linked to shift in status of women

    In the meantime, Iran is going through its own version of political sex scandals. Not the first by any means, but more graphic than before as there is video of the sexual acts in question circulating on social media.
    https://en.radiofarda.com/a/sex-vid...n-get-public-figures-in-trouble/30109743.html
    Sex Videos On Social Media In Iran Get Public Figures In Trouble
     
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    Feminists in Iran should be regarded as suicidal
    and locked up for their own protection.

    They might be released after re education programs
    seem to have worked on them.


    @Iranian Monitor
    Re.: White Marriage
    "Nina and Ahmad have lived happily together in their small one-bedroom apartment for years. They share the cost of groceries; they split the rent..."
    Praise Allah Nina is not a feminist!



    Moi :oldman:


    Don't :flagcanada:ize, :flagus:
     
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    Here comes teheran bob...
     
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    Thats totally related. Its their laws, she shoukd either stick to laws or leave.
     
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    Having a chancellor that reduced migration by 97% and giving us a 12 year economic boom phase plus made us hegemon of europe doesnt sound too bad
     
  17. Iranian Monitor

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    I am not exactly supportive of all things that "feminists" advocate, but I am probably a lot more supportive on most of them than you imagine. But ultimately I am not interested so much in changing people's political viewpoints. That would be a fruitless endeavor anyway -- and I am far too agnostic about what is the "correct" ideology for everyone to even presume such a thing. For me, the issue is simpler, even if surprisingly proving to be no less difficult: to make sure fiction and propaganda don't distort the truth about the reality in Iran. Whatever else you might believe in terms of your ideology, the truth about Iran is often very much at odds with what you are led to believe.
     
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    Not sure what your overall point is. It is not like it is new information that the majority of the Mideast is hotbed for this type of thing - and some nations in Africa are not much better - female genital mutilation and so on.

    Compared to Saudi Arabia - Iran is a bastion of freedom and personal liberty -yet we support Saudi Arabia in their efforts to turn Yemen into a similar Totalitarian nightmare.

    Syria was by far one of the best nations with respect to freedoms. They were not a Strict Sharia Nightmare. Women wore skirts and proper bathing suits - did not need permission from a man to be educated and did not need to be accompanied by a male relative when going out in public. There is no stoning of adulterers or death penalty for Apostasy. There are Christian Churches and relative freedom of Religion. Assad even had Christian Generals in his army.

    Yet - we armed supported Saudi inspired Salafist Islamist extremists (the majority of which were either Al Qaeda or ISIS) whose goal was to turn Syria into a Saudi style totalitarian nightmare.

    Where is the reporting on that in the New York Post ?
     
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    "I have no religion, and at times I wish all religions at the bottom of the sea. He is a weak ruler who needs religion to uphold his government; it is as if he would catch his people in a trap. My people are going to learn the principles of democracy, the dictates of truth and the teachings of science. Superstition must go. Let them worship as they will; every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him against the liberty of his fellow-men."

    Mustafa Kemal, aka Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey and a muslim
     
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    It should be obvious.
     
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    I am sure that the thoughts of many Americans (including mine) concerning Iran are often based on stereotypical information. I appreciate your thoughts and will be reading your future posts with more interest. With you having lived in both the United States and Iran, your perspectives certainly have value. Hope you don't mind another question:

    If I lived in Iran, could I safely walk down a crowded city street proclaiming that Allah doesn't exist, that Mohammed was just an evil barbarian, and that the Iranian government is evil and should be overthrown? What would be the reaction from the Iranian government and its citizens?

    I could certainly do those things in the United States without any reprisal from the government or from most of the citizens. And similarly, I could proclaim that the Christian God doesn't exist and that Jesus was just a psychotic man, not the son of god, and that the United States government should be overthrown - and the government wouldn't try to stop me and wouldn't put me in jail.
     
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    It is not obvious to me.

    Could you please point out the obvious reason why I need to stop trashing women who want equal rights?
     
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    The Alabama law and the Iranian law are unacceptable. Abortion should be a matter between a woman and her physician.
     
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    I guess you don't "get it."
     
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    The barbarity is how they treat people who disobey the law.
     

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