Bahamas before and after Hurricane Dorian

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  1. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We wouldn't, except for humanitarian purposes.
     
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    The U. S. can and should provide humanitarian help to the Bahamas -- drinking water, port-a-potties, survival food, clothing, tents, sleeping cots, and emergency medical help, including medicine. But, that's about all.... The Bahamas are not part of the United States, and, for all your Hillary-worshipping Democrats -- neither was HAITI....
     
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    A cartel drop point?
     
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    Yes, I get it. Almost any place can flood. Buy flood insurance if you can and if you believe the risk warrants it. I am 3 miles from a river that floods regularly. My home is located on hill top plateau 400' higher that the river and at a higher elevation than any other adjacent hills in the area. therefore I don't have much risk of naturally occurring floods and will not purchase flood insurance for an additional $600-900 per year.

    It's also a good idea to check exactly what your home owners insurance covers and what it does not. Some policies for example may cover tornados but not straight line wind storms which can be as destructive and much more frequent in many parts of the country. I have a rider for straight line winds that would otherwise not be covered.

    If you live in a costal area, I would insure for Hurricanes, Tornados, Straight line wind as well as separate Federal Flood Insurance. Insure for current replacement value of the home contents and any unattached structures and their contents.
     
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    Oh well they are part of YOUR COMMONWEALTH not my UNITED STATES. Why is it our responsibility and not yours just because you don't like YOUR internal politics?

    Insults will get your post deleted around here. They try to keep it on a higher level.
     
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    I'm within a mile of the coast but almost 200' above sea level on a hill. It's wind coverage that kills me ever since Katrina and Ivan. Have to have a separate rider with Lloyds of London which is three times the cost of the rest my coverage including a million dollar umbrella liability rider. The global warming and it's only going to get worse thingy. It didn't.
     
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    They're doing the best they can to get them out from the areas effected. Other parts of Bahama's are taking them in and many are coming to the US via cruiseships.

    You do know that much of the country is still okay and therefore should be the first to step up right? What they can't cover, is what the rest of the world should help with. ALL democrat strongholds in this country where there are homeless encampments look just as bad or worse. Too bad they don't care about our people as well, huh?
     
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    I am no where near any large body of water besides a fairly fast flowing shallow river that normally floods every spring.
    Home owner/farm insurance is no doubt my single greatest expense. I pay personal property taxes for all my vehicles, farm equipment, ATV's and Trailers plus real estate taxes for my homestead and adjacent AG property. Still home owner/farm insurance is 3 times more than what I pay for all other taxes. I don't remember what I pay extra for the straight line wind rider but it wasn't much extra and well worth it. I'm on a hilltop, surrounded by oak and cedar trees that provide NO windbreak. There is almost always wind, usually from west to east. The wind insurance paid for all but $600 for a new 30 year roof on the house this year because of wind and some hail damage the adjuster noted.
     
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    Take your time. There will be lots of issues that come up.
     
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    Mortgage companies only require flood insurance in what they consider the high-risk is zones and I believe that's a legal issue because the mortgage companies would probably require it in low-risk sounds as well but I don't believe they can by law. If you have a private mortgage you're allowed to require it if I understand correctly, different rules.

    Coverage for a low-risk zone is really inexpensive like $450 a year for 250,000 in coverage.

    More often than not however people just say the mortgage company said I don't need flood insurance. As opposed to saying the mortgage company is not a legally allowed by law to force me to buy it.

    Ballpark figures on the back of a napkin but about 85% of my customers that are not required to buy flood coverage don't buy it, maybe 1% of the renters and all are between 10-15' elevations. A storm like Dorian would do massive damage to uninsured or underinsured structures.

    I think the highest point in my county is 18-20'.
     
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    No one cares whether you like the "commonwealth or the queen", @Badaboom . No one cares whether you feel "imposed on", either.

    Now, by what logic do you construe that "The Bahamas are you(r) problem"... meaning we of the United States of America...? There is NONE. And whether or not we are in your exalted estimation an industrial powerhouse anymore hasn't got anything to do with anything....
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of your many rants matter either yet you're free to express yourself and so am I.
     
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    Blah, blah.... I asked you how you construe that the Bahamas are the "problem" of the United States of America. You reply that you are free to "express" yourself. That was never in question....

    So, go ahead and "express" yourself, and tell us all why the Bahamas are, in your erudite opinion, the "problem" of the United States. The floor is yours.... :lol:
     
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    Because they're in your sphere of influence. Telling us that the Bahamas is the "commonwealth" problem is akin to asking the person living next to a firehouse to call for the next town over fire dept. when their house is in fire. That you cannot see this is quite telling really.
     
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    By what logic is the BRITISH Empire in AMERICA'S sphere of influence? You're a few centuries late for that to make sense.
     
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    "The measure proposed by Rubio and Scott would allow citizens of the Bahamas to stay with family in the United States while the country rebuilds in the wake of Hurricane Dorian’s destruction."

    How many have families here? The problem Trump and the State department has is the same as trying to vet a person from any country who doesn't have papers. Why do they have to go to Florida anyway?

    They said some were being taken to Nassau. There are many islands in the Bahamas and most were not damaged by the hurricane. If they are citizens of the Bahamas they should stay in the Bahamas. If they are illegals from Haiti of which there are several, they should be sent back to Haiti or taken to an island in the Bahamas that was not damaged.

    The problems caused by illegals from Central America and their democrat enablers has already taxed our immigration system and quotes have been exceeded.
     
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    I tend to agree with you on this.

    The Bahamas already has a problem with illegal Haitians. I don't want that problem to spread here to Florida.

    Likewise I saw the problems we faced with the misplaced Puerto Ricans in Florida. At least in that case you could argue "they are Americans". I see no reason to suspect the Bahamians would be less likely to take advantage of our hospitality than the Puerto Ricans were. I'm all for sending aid to them, but I don't want to open the Pandora's Box of bringing undocumented Bahamians and Haitians into Florida.

    Likewise I agree with whichever poster it was earlier who suggested they were ok with sending aid, but not with rebuilding the Bahamas. I feel the same way. Humanitarian aid is one thing, but the rebuilding should be the Bahamas' own responsibility. (I predict even more Bahamian property being bought up by Floridians, other Americans, and other foreigners.)
     
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    The british empire is no more silly... It died just after WW2.
     
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    It became the Commonwealth silly...
     
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    Which isn't the same bloody thing... IN the empire the UK ruled. IN the commonwealth it's a loose mutal defense alliance. The UK doesn't have colonies anymore.
     
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    Aside from the Falklands, the Jersey Islands, that 1 rock that annoys Spain, etc.
     
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    How can the House be forced to change immigration laws? I don't know.
     
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    Those aren't colonies... you really are clueless.
     

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