I'm A Gun Owner

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Sep 15, 2019.

  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I would stay away from talking about the looks of a gun.

    A .22LR AR platform would have less power that the 5.56 mm or .308 cal so yes propably will cause less damage. I would not want one because my thinking is that it would be prone to jamming. Not sure why technically but just thing that the reletivity small size of the cartridge would prone to jamming.
     
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    Military invasion. You been reading too many apocalyptic books lately?
     
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    ^^^ Massive misunderstanding of the 2nd Amendment and why Americans have it.

    The 2nd Amendment was to allow U.S. Citizens the capability to protect themselves (as a God given right) against tyrannical governments both foreign and DOMESTIC. Americans are supposed to have the right to keep and bear the same arms (guns) as a standard Light Infantryman. Not a grenade launcher, not a Mini-gun, but the standard issue, and we don't even have anything like it with the AR-15, yet you Leftists, who support the current Authoritarianism of the Left and their tyrannical use of the IRS and DOJ against your political opponents want to disarm the U.S. Citizens even more.
     
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    If China were to invade, an AR would make the difference between watching my neighbors house be invaded and taking some of them out from my house. I guarantee our neighborhood would be armed and organized in an armed invasion. We have a lot of veterans and police in my neighborhood.
     
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    I care because nowadays kids play computer games, then something happens and they get deranged, they buy the real thing and go shoot a bunch of people. This pretty much gives them the ability to live in a computer game for the last minutes of their lives. You can easily take it away without hurting the right to own guns.

    Do you recognize the fact that we have a mass shooting problem? If you do, then what is your solution?

    Please define a “military grade weapon”.
     
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    This has got to be one of the most common sense posts I've ever seen on the issue.

    There's no way anyone is going to, "TAKE AWAY ALL OUR GUNS" as the alarmist like to put it, or all our rights, or even barely infringe on anything, just want to make a dent in dead school kids and other people, just trying to go about their lives.

    Nope. It's not a slow, but steady erosion of the constitution, specifically 2A that's at stake.. If TODAYS "government" wanted to take you over, you're fck'd. Your" assault rifle "isn't gonna help you.

    But once a talking point is entrenched, it's a hard habit to break.
     
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    Didn't I hear you lost your guns on a fishing trip, bottom of the lake right? Probably pretty close to mine, damn thieving fish...
     
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    Why not?
    AR-15 is clearly a rifle for wannabes. If you play so much computer games that you want to imagine yourself shooting a bunch of bad guys from an automatic, cool looking rifle then go join the military.
    There are many other rifles that don’t look aggressive that can still do the job and won’t take away the right to own guns.
     
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    The entrance to a slippery slope is often "common sense".
     
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    Hahahaha... oh dear, that gun looks so aggressive. You can't be serious man.

    So if I make it look like a musket but if holds 30 rounds and can hit a target reliably at 1000 yards, is that cool with you?
     
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    Yeah. Tell all those parents of seven year old's slaughtered at Sandy Hook, about your fear of slippery slopes, then get back to me.
     
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    We should make a law that all guns must be pink...
     
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    Do you think machine guns should be made legal again?
     
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    What’s your solution to mass shootings?
     
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    They should have had police protecting the schools and maybe even trained and armed teachers(school marshals). That's what they do here. I think it was a good investment. My kids are fine.
     
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    Why not make a law that just eliminates mimicking? A civilian rifle doesn’t need to look like a military weapon. It can still have the same functionality.
     
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    I don't see it as something that needs to be solved. I have a better chance of being struck twice by lightning than being shot by a mass shooter. I am armed, and am probably a better shot than anyone loony enough to become a mass shooter.

    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery" --- Thomas Jefferson

    I stole the quote from MolonLabe's signature.
     
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    First, it sounds like video games may have more to do with mass shootings than the firearms themselves. Perhaps we need to ban video games before we start abridging Constitutional rights.
    We really do not have much of a shooting problem. That is propaganda. Do you realize you have more chance of being hit by lightning than being killed by mass shooter? The chance of being killed mass shooting are only slightly higher than being killed by a dog attack. Are you advocating that we ban dogs too?

    My solution is that we begin to look seriously into what is driving people to commit desperate acts. The guns are not killing, the people are. Is there a correlation between video games and shootings?? I think we need to study it. What effect are Prussian school environments which are modeled after prisons having on young people. What effects are TV and Movies having on people? What effect are mind altering drugs that are becoming common in school children having. These are all legitimate questions that no one wants to even study much less answer.

    We have had rapid fire weapons for over 100 years, but these types of incidences never happened in the past. What has changed if it was not the capability of firearms? People who are desperate to commit anti social acts will find a way to do so, whether they have access to firearms or not. They are not sane and will be obsessed with doing what they think will justify what ever is their problem. We need to find out what is happening to them and fix that.
     
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    I wouldn't have a problem with it. A mass shooter would miss more shots and spend more time reloading. Full auto is a waste of money and only for the uber rich.
     
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    There is nothing you can do to prevent all mass killings, but there are some things that can be done that limit the possibility of that occurrence.
    The things that I mentioned in my posts here would not limit anyone’s rights to own guns.

    Do you recognize the fact that we have a mass shooting problem?
     
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    The right is as stupid about this gun control thing as the left is about the gay pride thing, (and almost everything tbh).

    "I must have AR15's, it's way more important than any lives, do not encroach on my gun rights" ect... What the ever loving fck?

    No its not a" slippery slope, anymore than illegal immigration control is a "slippery slope" to NO immigration at all.
     
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    The gangsters in the ‘30s all had Thompson’s and it seemed like a lot of innocent bystanders were getting killed in turf wars. I am not so sure it would’ve a good idea to start selling Thompson’s and BARs at Dick’s sporting goods.
     
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    I think both marijuana and machine guns should be decriminalized by the federal govt and only subjected to restriction by a popular vote in each state.
     
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    No, we do have a mass shooting problem. We have the most from all developed countries. It’s not propaganda.
    There is an interesting correlation between mass shootings and computer games, the causation should definitely be studied.

    Anyway, changing the way a civilian gun looks without changing its functionality and limiting capacities of the magazines are viable obtains that should be explored and they will have absolutely no affect on 2A.
     
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    All murder is a problem. Disarming me won't help the situation. It could even hurt the situation. The El Paso shooter is lucky he didn't meet a civilian with a gun and the Odessa shooter carjacked someone who was guaranteed to be unarmed. (A female federal employee in a US Mail truck.) Me or my wife would have just as likely shot him and saved some lives if he had approached our truck with a rifle in hand. I can legally carry an AR15 or AR15 pistol in my truck. Many Texans do.

    Just a sample
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