I'm A Gun Owner

Ok, deny there is a problem and wait till it becomes so big, the real conversation about banning guns starts. The more shootings there are, the more people support restrictions on gun ownership.
Being in denial will only hurt your cause.
I own a gun and don’t have a problem with exploring the options to limit the mass shootings through ways that don’t limit 2A, and I do think there are things that could be done.

 

I agree fully abou Marajuana but I am not so sure about machine guns, mortars or cannons. I think we have to draw the line somewhere. I am just not sure where.

 

I have told wannabes just what what you said about firing a M-16. If a wannabe gets a woodie by firing a semi auto military grade weapon and wants a chance to fire one on select fire go join the military like many of us did. Oh may I add Tump did not? In my days we did not have the select fire so we were told to try auto fire but try to manually fire short bursts. Only at the range.

Funny I suspect that some of the biggest mouthy RM Wing Extremist here and on sites such as Free Republc never served, do not serve, never will serve their country. There are true Conservatives here who I know they served I can tell by things they post I am not talking about those good guys.

 

I never said disarming anyone.
I said limiting the way the guns look, or limiting the caliber of rifles that mimic military weapon, and limiting the size of the magazine.

AR-15s are rifles for wannabes, people who have some serious confidence issues. A person who owns an AR-15 is not any different from a person who owns a Hummer. You imagine yourself to be something you are not. If you pile some psychological problem on the top of the fact that you are a wannabe then we will have a potential mass shooter.

 

See that's the thing...disarming YOU, won't help , but disarming Adam Lanza would have given twenty little kids a chance to live their lives.
My daughter was seven when those kids were killed, I had a panic attack putting her on the bus the next day.

I love Trump, voted for him and will again, I'm independent, lean right because the left is delusional most of the time. But the right has it's flaws and this is one of them. No one need easy access to these guns, and more kids will die for your insistence on a phoney fear of government takeover.

 

Agree on waste. Full auto is a waste of ammunition, extremely few people can fire accurately using full auto. I know that I could not even when I was young.

 

Sure, teach your kids not to be *******s. Thats how we fix this, not limiting gun rights.
Owning a gun doesn't make it ok for you to tell others what they can and cannot own.
Im not worried about it. the number of mass shooters is ridiculously tiny, and when they make themselves know they are either killed or thrown in prison for life. I am far more worried about the government trying to tell me what I can and cannot own and how I should live my life.

 

Does it fire the same cartridge as an AR-15?

No?

 

Paduch in Vegas was pretty successful at it

 

how is it a phony fear? Have you bothered reading history before? It has happened over, and over, and over again. And where it happens, nobody thinks it will happen until it does.

 

A semiauto AR with a binary trigger would fare pretty well against them. They make them for ARs as well.

 

What does that have to do with anything? It's a .223 round. good for shooting varmints, and on the light side for hunting deer. Nothing special at all about that round.

 

The ignorant left think that is some magical caliber. They have no clue about firearm ballistics.

 

The line has been drawn at weapons designed to kill indiscriminantly. Thus machine guns and explosive devises (the BATFE regulates both with the same 'destructive device' permits). The current attempts to 'redraw' this line indicate that the line doesn't mean much, and thus many are unwilling to move it, lest it continued to be moved to eventually include everything except single-shot weapons. Its like when you're debating someone on an issue and they expand the issue to avoid a perception of defeat (moving goal posts). Kinda makes you want to stop engaging them altogether... Gun control has become a 'moving goal posts' issue over the decades.

 

Lol, I would smoke the **** out of privates when I was a drill sergeant if I ever caught them firing on 3 round burst. Waste of damn ammo.

 

He was firing into a concentrated crowd within a limited space. He used bump shocks as I recall. Bump stocks as I understand give almost the effect of gull auto but actually it is just faster semi auto so I think that it very likely is easier to control a bump stock than a full auto fire.

 

I only recall being allowed to fire full auto on only two occasions. One time it was during qualifying on a M-16 as part of SEA South East Asia training before going to Vietnam. I was Air Force do we were not seriously expected to be proficient as riflemen.

 

I would definitely have a problem with any kind of sweeping federal ban on semi automatic pistols or rifles. Also, I appreciate your well informed input here.

 

I know! Heres an idea...
Lets just pump guns into the country!
Everyone, regardless of age, gets any munitions they want! No restrictions, no registration. Just a good ol down home free for all!
That'll show the government!

 

In ROTC they made us all use 3RB during LARS. Told us we'd push for every round we had left after training... too bad the NatGuard unit that loaned us the A2s didn't clean em very well. Lotta pushing from jams...

 

Exactly right. Reasonable and balanced.
Why is common sense in such short supply on this topic?

 

So tell me, statistically how big is our "mass shooting problem"? Do you even know? I will wager you do not. Your chance of being killed or injured by a mass shooter is 1 in 2 million. That means you have a 10 times greater chance of being shot by a police officer. You are 2 times more likely to be killed by a vending machine. You have 2 times more chance of being killed by flesh eating bacteria. You have a 20 time more likely chance of being killed at work. You have a 15 times better chance to be killed by earthquake. You have a 40 times greater chance being killed riding a bicycle. You are 1000 times more likely to die from choking on your dinner. You have a 40 times greater chance of dying by being poisoned by the medicine your doctor prescribes So just how big of problem is mass shootings in the bigger picture? In fact, your chance of being the victim of a mass shooter is about the same as being killed falling out of bed. If you are going to ban guns, perhaps you should also seriously avoid vending machines and start sleeping on the floor.
I repeat, we do not have a mass shooter problem. We have a propaganda problem....

 

Arms, in whatever form, have been in the possession of mankind/citizens/dictatorships/governments since man has been on earth...They're necessary to protect oneself from potential harm, whether that harm animal or another human...Needless to say, periodically someone is going to use them for the wrong purpose...That's called human nature...That is not reason enough to think about taking weapons away from the 99.9% law abiding citizens who will never use them for a purpose other than what they are intended, i.e., "self protection."

 

Look at mass shooters - most of them wore tactical gear. They literally imagined themselves to be on some kind of military mission.
Take it away by eliminating military looking guns and you might as well have a chance of them picking something else to satisfy themselves in their murderous range.
I really don’t see a situation where you need a gun that looks like a gun from a video game. Anyone buying a militaristic looking gun imagining themselves shooting other people, any people, should spend the money on a mental health professional instead, because they are clearly having a serious problem and they should check themselves out.

A shotgun or a semi-automatic handgun is more than enough for self defense. A hunting rifle is enough for hunting and for farmers to protect their livestock.
A rifle with up to 20 rounds magazine is enough for sport shooting.

Anything else is excessive and is a sign of a mental problem of the owner.

 

Hahaha. Yeah, where I was a DS, we had to turn any leftover ammo back into the ammo point, which meant we had to wait for the truck to finally swing by our range to pick it up. It took forever, or seemed like it did, lol. Technically we were supposed to turn in any we didn't use, but if there were no higher ups around, all of the drill sergeants would just take all the remaining ammo and shoot it all up so that we didn't have to turn it in. We wouldn't let the privates do it. We spent too much time getting them to learn the fundamentals of marksmanship to just let the shoot as fast as they can. Plus, after dealing with a bunch of idiot privates all day, shooting off a couple hundred rounds can be very therapeutic, lol.